Should the international laws be amended to consider state-led cyber attacks an act of war in additional to traditional aggression? Seems like UN Security Council should deal with these matters.
Just cut the undersea cables from China, there has to be a time when the world says enough is enough
Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack
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#42China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approach.
Can you please give me a proof that it's China and not someone else...or nothing at all? I always hear cyber-attack's from Russia, North Korea or China, but never from Israel or the US, are they just so bad in covering up or is maybe something else behind it?
Most everything else seems more about finding a scapegoat to blame.
Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack
#43Should the international laws be amended to consider state-led cyber attacks an act of war in additional to traditional aggression? Seems like UN Security Council should deal with these matters.
International law barely exists and is unenforceable. If a superpower--especially a permanent Security Council member--wants to do something, there's absolutely no recourse. Look at Russia and Crimea. That's the most egregious violation of the notion of international law in recent history, and nothing of consequence happened. The big powers can do whatever they want, and the worst response will be token economic sanc…
I am not Russian, and have nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine or whatever (I am Brazillian, of Iberian descent).
Still, Crimea was not a "invasion" or "conquest".
Long story short:
Russia invaded Crimea in 1700s, taking it from Tartars.
When a Ukranian became leader of URSS, he "gave" Crimea to Ukraine, it was only nominal, nothing changed in Crimea itself, the place still was basically a navy base for Russia.
When URSS broke up, because of previous decision, it was decided Crimea was Ukranian, except most of population there is Russian (including a huge amount of Russian military), and their only warmwater seaport deep enough for the good warships Russia had, was still there, to make this work, Russia "rented" the place from Ukraine.
When Ukraine most recent revolution happened, do you think all the Russian military personel families that live there since 1700s would want to leave?
Now... if you want to claim what is happening in Donbass is a invasion, then that is more plausible.
Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack
#44Not just cyber attack, Australia is also under economic attack [1] for the same reason. And China just suddenly decided to sentence an Australian to death (same move they made against Canada), after five years of sitting on the case [2]. It's all about intimidation and leverage. China will press until Australia capitulates. Fortunately the Australians have backbone. As a superpower capable of standing off with China,…
And instead our commander in chief prefers to insult allies old and new on Twitter
Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack
#45China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approach.
The Chinese aircraft carrier strike force threatened Taiwan : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11394307/china-warships-taiwan... .
The General Secretary of Central Committee of the Communist Party of China is up to something.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
International law barely exists and is unenforceable. If a superpower--especially a permanent Security Council member--wants to do something, there's absolutely no recourse. Look at Russia and Crimea. That's the most egregious violation of the notion of international law in recent history, and nothing of consequence happened. The big powers can do whatever they want, and the worst response will be token economic sanc…
Increased encirclement & isolation (economic & political persona non grata) by a large group of the liberal affluent nations is the only approach that will work to curtail military attacks like this one. The CPC ego is extraordinarily fragile, the party's self-esteem gets injured very easily, and that should be taken advantage of. Essentially all the highest GDP per capita nations are liberal allies, they should band…
In the case of Britain we've had a disastrous handling of the pandemic which is still on going (both the illness and the handling of it) on top of Brexit and incredibly poor leadership.
It'll be a decade before we return to something like normality and even then it will be in a new reality.
Leaving the EU lost us our ability to stand up to the US or China in any meaningful way - for them we are just another Tuesday.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't quite follow. Would you please elucidate?
Taiwan and Mainland China both claim to be true China. Taiwan used to be on UN security council till it was ousted and replaced by PRC: http://www.ipsnews.net/2019/04/taiwan-still-permanent-member... . We just have to replace them again.
Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack
#48China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approach.
Can you please give me a proof that it's China and not someone else...or nothing at all? I always hear cyber-attack's from Russia, North Korea or China, but never from Israel or the US, are they just so bad in covering up or is maybe something else behind it?
What precisely are you saying?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
By recognizing Taiwan as the defacto China
Sure. That will simply have no effect on their power and might justify a war on Taiwan.
The US has the better navy but china has a crap tonne of anti-ship missiles (because of the US having the better navy) and that's before the risk of it going nuclear.
I wonder how far the US would actually go to protect Taiwan, would they risk someone tossing a nuke or the situation getting spectacularly out of hand.