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Re: undefined

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Post by jedsmith » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:16 PM UTC

zedshaw wrote: post #33

jedsmith wrote: post #12

This page needs this badly, motherfucker: http://dropbox.jedsmith.org/programming-motherfuckers.jpg

Done.

10% of the book royalties is fair, I think. :>

Re: undefined

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Post by Pooter » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:16 PM UTC

xentronium wrote: post #16

By the way, I fucking heard that if you fucking abuse the shittyfucking cursewords, they fucking lose their motherfucking value. (This is gonna cost me some points, I am sure)

Good lord, you suck.

(That is gonna cost me some points, I'm sure)

Re: undefined

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Post by tptacek » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:17 PM UTC

The fact that I agree with all of this just makes me sadder at how it was presented. Thanks for building a handy straw man for the methodology developers to attack.

I flagged this --- it's virtually content free --- but that's a futile gesture given how susceptible HN is to this particular form of social engineering.

Re: undefined

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Post by bjclark » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:17 PM UTC

rch wrote: post #32

bjclark wrote: post #15

I'm truly curious what part of XP gets in the way of programming.

This part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XP-feedback.gif

It looks like there's a lot of programming going on there. The lack of continuous deployment has been an admission of omission by Kent Beck, but other than that, is it the fact that there is a meeting once a day and once a week? Planning of any kind gets in the way of programming?

Re: undefined

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Post by zedshaw » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:17 PM UTC

js2 wrote: post #22

Motherfucking typo: we really need to just to the thing on the right s/just to/just do/

Thanks, fixed.

Re: undefined

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Post by EGreg » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:17 PM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #17

That page just really reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PsnxDQvQpw

and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmG4X9PGOXs

and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vofXcC0rj4&NR=1&feat...

Re: undefined

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Post by ascendant » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:18 PM UTC

I've always felt project management should just be 1 person going to each programmer/designer on the team and saying "Hi, are you on schedule? Do you need me to clear any roadblocks or clarify any requirements for you? No? Good day to you, sir."

That is effective project management. Anything else is just spinning your wheels.

Re: undefined

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Post by edw519 » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:18 PM UTC

"The path of the righteous programmer is beset on all sides by the inequities of the clueless and the tyranny of evil project managers. Blessed is he, who in the name of achievement and solid technology, shepherds the users through the valley of ineptitude, for he is truly his customer's keeper and the finder of lost solutions. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to deploy without testing. And you will know my name is zedshaw when I lay my software upon thee."

Re: undefined

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Post by zedshaw » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:18 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #43

The fact that I agree with all of this just makes me sadder at how it was presented. Thanks for building a handy straw man for the methodology developers to attack. I flagged this --- it's virtually content free --- but that's a futile gesture given how susceptible HN is to this particular form of social engineering.

Yeah, humor's so damn manipulative.

Re: undefined

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Post by davidw » Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 6:18 PM UTC

Jabbles wrote: post #25

Programming is a subset of software engineering. A large number of important disciplines surround programming, including ones that just join one programmer's output to another. To state that you can get by solely with programming is foolish if you are tackling a problem of any complexity. Of course, reducing the overhead and improving the morale of developers is always a good thing, but somehow I don't think this is…

Stop trying to be all boring and rational. We are busy ecstatically voting up an article in which Zed Shaw says "motherfucker!" numerous times, providing much mirth for all. Next up are funny cat pictures.