But what in case of the abuse of the system? Administrators will end up deleting whatever is reported. Not to mention it can be used in political fight.
there are things in it to punish people abusing the system too
France passes law forcing online platforms to delete hate-speech within 24 hours
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#42How long until internet companies decide that relatively small and litigious markets aren't worth their time and simply ignore laws like this? If every country with an economy the size of 1 or 2 large US states start making up their own censorship laws and trying to force companies to enforce them, at some point this causes huge inefficiencies. I can see two end states to this: 1. If the censoring country has enough…
> How long until internet companies decide that relatively small and litigious markets aren't worth their time and simply ignore laws like this? We saw it happen with GDPR already. Though we also see many companies play ball with censors, e.g. in places like China. If suddenly a Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon is judged to be "hate speech", it's easy to just censor the cartoons. Most users won't exactly care, there's plenty…
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who decides what needs to be censored? How do we ensure a fair process if we could be silenced for just questioning the censors? The hate speech slope is slippery and unscrupulous politicians will always want to interfere.
Anything you cannot biologically change is hate speech. It’s not complicated and it’s objective.
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#44france is such a weird place. In some ways it's a very free society. In other ways it's not free at all. Don't most of the euro countries have weird laws about hate speech like this?
It can be argued the U.S. is the “weird” country for not restricting hate speech. It’s not just the EU, most countries regulate hate speech. This is not perceived as restricting freedom, because it protects the freedoms of the group the hate speech targets (one person’s freedom ends where another’s begins).
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#45Hate speech definition: 'abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation'. How can this possibly be enforced? This is Bowdlerization of online debate. (removing material that is considered improper or offensive from (a text or account), especially with the result that the text becomes weaker or less effectiv…
This is a very broad term on this law. "prejudice against a particular group." So if I call Trump supporters "ignorant red necks and backward people," Will it be considered Hate speech? Or when people say: "White people are " Will that be considered hate speech too? Disclaimer: I am a "protected" minority, but I am in favor of free speech. Even if what you say is ugly or garbage. PS. I consider downvotes here as offe…
Re: France passes law forcing online platforms to delete hate-speech within 24 hours
#46france is such a weird place. In some ways it's a very free society. In other ways it's not free at all. Don't most of the euro countries have weird laws about hate speech like this?
It’s simple. You’re not free to be intolerant. What is intolerant? Anything that involves biological differences that people are unable to change.
Trying to block intolerance by force is wrong.
Teach how to overcome it, or just teach to keep it to one's self.
Re: France passes law forcing online platforms to delete hate-speech within 24 hours
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who decides what needs to be censored? How do we ensure a fair process if we could be silenced for just questioning the censors? The hate speech slope is slippery and unscrupulous politicians will always want to interfere.
Anything you cannot biologically change is hate speech. It’s not complicated and it’s objective.
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#48Re: France passes law forcing online platforms to delete hate-speech within 24 hours
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being made fun of for anything that people biologically cannot change is hate speech. It’s not some complicated quagmire of laws you are trying to make it out to be.
If only content moderation and human expression were that simple. Alas, it is not to be. If you read it carefully, I just “made fun of” people who are unimaginative. Is that an innate trait? Should my content be censored? Should a comment on a video of a tall person that says “how’s the weather up there?” be censored using criminal liability? This criminalizes even hosting the discussion about what beliefs along thes…
Given that reddit is banning the word "retard"... the answer may soon be "yes, it should".
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#50Good. I would much rather have a good amount of censorship then let bigots hide behind the “free speech” argument.