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Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if profit is removed technology will still remain and shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others by stripping away the autonomy of every individual though. I don't think it's just "profit" that's the problem.

>shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others so, for profit?

Whether you provide all of the basic needs for a man and he farms for others, or whether you provide him a wage.. it's all the same in the sense of removing his autonomy.

You'll notice from the writer's essay that he started to become "more happy" when he was able to exercise some autonomy without all of the pressure.

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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You may enjoy listening to Jonathan Coulton's Solid State. It's a magnificent album about someone similarly disillusioned with tech. The album is uploaded on YouTube, but this was the teaser that he uploaded before the album release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvVNxqosZ7s

Wow.

A bit depressing (and I don't even work in tech anymore!), but I think he nailed it - it's the rat race. It applies to anyone right now who feels stuck in a job with no meaning.

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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I've been feeling burnout, although not to the same extent as OP, for many of the same reasons. The main difference is I never stopped loving programming or the creative aspects of making things. Ideally I'd like to be a full time hobbyist programmer, but that seems out of reach financially. If you want to get back into making stuff I suggest doing zero pressure hobby projects focused on whatever you enjoy about the process of making (not around a mission, or users and definitely not around money) and don't actually worry about finishing. Just focus on the act of making stuff happen

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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post #42

You may enjoy listening to Jonathan Coulton's Solid State. It's a magnificent album about someone similarly disillusioned with tech. The album is uploaded on YouTube, but this was the teaser that he uploaded before the album release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvVNxqosZ7s

Wow. A bit depressing (and I don't even work in tech anymore!), but I think he nailed it - it's the rat race. It applies to anyone right now who feels stuck in a job with no meaning.

The whole album addresses this topic, it's very Pink Floyd-ian in the story that it tells through a nearly continuous track. "Pictures of Cats" is one of my favorites, an elegy for the 24/7 cycle of bad news and the toll it takes on us. Definitely worth a listen.

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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I would recommend hacking. Not cracking, mind you, but tinkering. Focusing not on building a product, but on toying for just a few hours with something you find cool, and have fun with it.

This is what made it for me when I started being disillusioned with my work (I became a developer thinking the internet would bring direct democracy like printing brought democracy, and instead it brought mass surveillance and complotism).

I play with the decentralized web (dat), with raspberry pi, with system programming, with whatever new (to me) I feel like. And just like that, I'm happy again and enjoying my craft again. I just want out of "the industry" and can't wait to have saved enough to be able to do that (gladly, this is a work line where we're lucky enough to be able to retire early, if we're good with simple life).

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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I think the fundamental flaw is trying to be 'successful'. Playing that game invariably requires you to pretend to be what you think the market wants. I would suggest you think about building something you want that you find fun. If you're a scuba diver, build a dive computer. If you're a woodworker make a tool for making the best use of a board. The most important thing is you absolutely don't plan on making it a wo…

For most people it's not about trying to be successful. It's about not having to be stressed out daily about basic needs like home, health, transport, kids upbringing etc. Unfortunately it all costs a lot of money these days, which makes you take a compromise for the sake of security for you and your closest relatives.

This is why normal, sane, people will put up with the Dilbert-esque world of business. They only have a month's savings and they have a mortgage and two kids to feed.

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

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I'm having similar issues, and i think i found a way out: stop playing their game. Don't make enterprise software. Don't write unit tests. Don't accept pull requests. Simply write software for yourself and have fun doing it. Forget refactoring code into modules, just fucking code. Don't worry about deployment with k8s, just copy the Python script to your production folder and run it. Fuck all that shit about git bran…

That's generally an unpopular and unwelcome opinion here, but I agree with you 100%. edit: and i'll happily take those downvotes, they are delicious thank you.

Not on this story. Those other folks are too busy configuring stuff, arguing about curl website/script.sh | sh, and building microservices to feel burnt out yet.

Re: Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help

#49
I don't know how well this will go down in HN, but here's my take/secret:

Corporations and business aren't programming/tech/ science. Startups aren't tech. University and academics isn't science. Faculties aren't science. Peer review isn't science. Venture capitalists aren't tech. Silicon valley isn't tech/ science. "The web" isn't tech.

Let's try another analogy: modern art and art dealerships and art galleries aren't art. Art is taking a photo you like, or painting something you want to paint or building something you want to build. Working at it because you want it and you think it will be beautiful or purposeful: once you're trying to make business and money and find out what's popular and build reputation and sell you tend to stop doing art and start doing something else.

So to bring it back to tech and science.

Science is just the process of systematically trying to use experimentation, empiricism and reasoning to find out what you don't know. That's it! The rest is some combination of empty shells, dressing and propaganda.

Flashing LEDs isn't tech.

Tech is just tools used for some purpose, be it practical or enjoyment. Nothing more. A hammer is tech. A rock is tech. A string can be tech.

I program in R and python and get paid for it these days. But I try to not bring it home, because it's not tech, and it's not science and it's not programming. When I'm programming I'm usually in emacs and lisp. I do photography to produce things I think are beautiful. I cook to provide tasty and healthy and enjoyable experiences for my family (and a scientific mindset can be quite helpful there). I apply science just continuously in life. And I hack together things in tech because I enjoy it and to make my life easier: why just this weekend I made our living room into a video conference centre for our corona virus quarantine: my phone is the webcam and streams wirelessly to the computer, my computer streams wireless display to my TV, my TV routes sound back out through the AV unit, and the room is lit with customisable hue lighting. All done for a few bucks of software and it'll never sell a unit and I don't care, because money and selling isn't tech.

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