Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% agreed. Most VC funds are necessarily good at very specific skill: convincing people who control lots of money that the VC is smarter and better than their competitors. The easiest way to sell that is to truly believe it, and then perform that belief convincingly. That's not something one switches on and off, so their answers here are likely to be skewed in the direction of things that make them look valuable. T…
In general I agree with you, but I would say that alot of VCs either 1) diversify their investments amongst many areas in tech (or maybe some non tech things, not stereotyping all VCS but for this example I'll say diversity of problems being solved using technology/software etc) and thus see commonalities of problems amongst teams in their experience despite whatever the specific niche industry is. I think it is pret…
Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
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#42The VC Web sites were deceptive: They claimed interest in new, advanced, powerful, for big markets, secret sauce, barriers to entry, high margins, etc.
Nope. Much as in the OP, the main thing they want is just current revenue, or at least proxies such as monthly unique users, significant and growing very rapidly.
So, I switched projects to one I can do as a sole, solo founder funded with just my checkbook.
Let's get a view of something VCs do not like but their Web sites implied they would like:
To the users, my project is just a Web site. The project is a new search engine for Internet content. The main business idea, drawing in part from some old work at Battelle, is that quite generally keywords are good for only about 1/3rd of content search. My project is for the other 2/3rds. Keys in the work are some new data and new ways to process that data. The new ways are from narrow, advanced pure math and some original applied math I derived (users will not be aware of anything mathematical) -- this use of math is the intellectual property, trade secret, secret sauce, technological advantage and barrier to entry, etc.
Status: Code for the project as envisioned, not just a minimum viable product, is ready for significant production, say, if enough users like the site, a one person company with revenue of $10 million a year, nearly all pre-tax earnings.
Team? Just me, and that's enough for now. Qualifications? Plenty in computing from IBM's Watson lab and much more. For the math, I hold a Ph.D. in applied math from a world class research university -- one advisor had other students build on my research and was later President at CMU.
Status: Code (.NET and SQL Server) for the project as envisioned, not just a minimum viable product, is ready for significant production, say, a one person company with revenue of $10 million a year, nearly all pre-tax earnings.
Lesson: My project is of zero interest to any well known VC. They don't care about any such project. Period.
Before going live, I need to add data -- doing that.
Got delayed by some outside interruptions, e.g., moved.
Early on, but not really now, the work could have been helped by some VC funding. Now, if the project gets even $1 million a year in revenue, then I will not want or need VCs.
So, net, with VCs, when I would have wanted them, they didn't want me; if I get to where they want me, then I won't want them.
There is some advice about VCs: Wait, that is, be successful enough, for them to call you. If that time comes, I will just check my old files and tell them the dates when I did contact them and they were not interested.
I want to make two broad points:
First, the economic shutdown for the COVID-19 pandemic has revealed that "50% of the US economy" (whatever the details on that are) is "small business". Next, as I have looked around at the families doing well, e.g., money enough for a 50' yacht, to pay full costs at Harvard, they are nearly all from running a family owned business and never got even 10 cents from a VC. Okay, start and run such a business where computing, the Internet, maybe some secret sauce (now these three can be just dirt cheap, less than some people spend in restaurants for a year) help but without VC funding.
Point: To do well in the US, don't really need VCs; e.g., nearly all the US families doing well are running family owned businesses, all across the US and not just along the east and west coasts, without any VC funding.
Second, there should be some big opportunities in applying what is in the research libraries in math, science, and engineering and/or doing and then applying more such research.
This fact has been well known for ~70 years by the US Department of Defense, CIA, NSA, Department of Energy, NSF, NIH, CDC, NASA, ONR, etc., well known and heavily exploited with huge benefits for US national security, health, and economic prosperity. E.g., we got GPS from a project of the USAF. For some decades, there were similar contributions from Bell Labs -- information theory (e.g., upper bounds on data rates), error correcting codes, the transistor, tiny solid state lasers lighting long haul optical fibers, etc.
Typically these projects are submitted and approved just on paper. The batting average is high: E.g., Keyhole (like Hubble but before Hubble and aimed at the ground instead of the stars), LIGO, the A-bomb, the H-bomb, the SR-71, navigation satellites (first from the US Navy and later from the USAF), nuclear fission power, the SSBNs, TCP/IP, NSF Net (now the Internet), DNA sequencing (the key to detection of SARS-COV-2 and now maybe to a fast vaccine), ..., all worked just as planned, essentially the first time, on or close enough to on time and on budget. Batting average! ROI!
Gee, if the USAF charged a penny for each use of GPS they would have how much money?
If Bell Labs got a penny for each transistor they would have how much money?
Point: The VCs just will not evaluate and fund projects presented just on paper and, thus, are missing out on such developments.
Final Point: VCs make some money and do at times help some projects, but their methods of working are quite narrow, and in the US the paths for making money are in principle and at times in practice much wider. There is a lot of opportunity doing projects the VCs won't fund.
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#43As Charlie is an NYC VC, I assume most investors on this are from NYC and there may be an Easy Coast bias in the data here. It’s a stereotype of East Coast VCs to overly focus on monetization compared to West Coast.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% agreed. Most VC funds are necessarily good at very specific skill: convincing people who control lots of money that the VC is smarter and better than their competitors. The easiest way to sell that is to truly believe it, and then perform that belief convincingly. That's not something one switches on and off, so their answers here are likely to be skewed in the direction of things that make them look valuable. T…
In general I agree with you, but I would say that alot of VCs either 1) diversify their investments amongst many areas in tech (or maybe some non tech things, not stereotyping all VCS but for this example I'll say diversity of problems being solved using technology/software etc) and thus see commonalities of problems amongst teams in their experience despite whatever the specific niche industry is. I think it is pret…
Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
#45The Problem & Market Segment - Moderate to Strong Predictor
"This would have been a stronger predictor had it not been for a few outliers at the top. Aside from a few companies who got a high number of intros despite scoring relatively low here, this was overall a very good predictor of who get intros. Picking the right problem to work on seemed more important than having the right solution by more than 2x.
So what was the most important factor?
Which area, if a VC only knew one thing about your company, was the most predictive of enticing a VC to want to meet?
Some founders might be disappointed, because its that age old question that they love to hate…
“How does it make money??”
Yes, the underlying economics of the business was the strongest predictor of whether a VC wanted an intro over any other aspect of the company. Founders who could clearly articulate an economic opportunity fared really well with investor interest."
Hmm, reminds me of some song lyrics...
"Come on, come on, listen to the money talk..."
-AC/DC "Money Talks"
Observation: Just as Scientists talk science, and Lawyers talk law, Venture Capitalists speak "Venture Capitalese", aka "Money", aka, "How much money could I the VC make with this?
That, and give me compelling proof of what you're saying in under a minute..."
Ideas, on the other hand, even great ones (to a VC point of view!) are the proverbial "dime a dozen" (or less even! An idea and fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee... Or, an idea and five dollars will get you a cup of coffee if you go to Starbucks...)
Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
#46I wouldn’t trust these data, not because there is anything wrong with the analysis but because the inputs are inaccurate. What VCs say was the reason they were interested is not necessarily what made them interested. It may be what they tell themselves or tell you, but I think the decision criteria are rarely that objective or explicit. Decisions are made, then back justified with a plausible explanation.
The following passage addresses your concern. We analyzed the results of our first 500 reviews and calculated the correlations between high marks in categories like team, problem area and business economics with the number of requested intros from our reviewing VCs. In other words the individual factors were graded, and the VC chose whether or not to meet. They are correlating the ranking of the components with the l…
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#47I wouldn’t trust these data, not because there is anything wrong with the analysis but because the inputs are inaccurate. What VCs say was the reason they were interested is not necessarily what made them interested. It may be what they tell themselves or tell you, but I think the decision criteria are rarely that objective or explicit. Decisions are made, then back justified with a plausible explanation.
The point is that people micro-tweak their behavior based on simple reward mechanism. Most can’t explain how they got there.
Top VCs are no different. They remind me chicken sexers (is that even a word?), who have differentiate gender by looking at their bottoms and quickly able to tell without ever being able to explain how they know [1].
With this long dribble I want to encourage founders to develop their own intuition. Create a pitch that makes sense to you and then tweak based on feedback.
[0] https://www.tacticaltennis.com/tennis-mythbusters-wrist-snap...
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/the-incredible-intuition-of-...
Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
#48I would say that absolute best predictor of getting a meeting is strong introductions. I hate to say this, but you'll have an easier time with a strong network. A trusted introduction can even overcome a bad deck in some cases. But there should be no reason to have a bad deck now-a-days as there is ample reference and knowledge share. First-time founders: Please don't pay for access. Services like this, in my opinion…
Best advice is just to be born wealthy so you can use your parents "connections," and then go to a top-tier business school to make more "connections." The startup scene is so boring because there's no diversity of thought when everyone comes from the same basic background.
Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The following passage addresses your concern. We analyzed the results of our first 500 reviews and calculated the correlations between high marks in categories like team, problem area and business economics with the number of requested intros from our reviewing VCs. In other words the individual factors were graded, and the VC chose whether or not to meet. They are correlating the ranking of the components with the l…
Yes, that's an important distinction. At the same time, if VCs graded individual factors, those grades could themselves be rationalizations. For example, they want to meet a founder, and give high marks to the categories they think should be important, not the factor that actually influenced them.
Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting
#50I wouldn’t trust these data, not because there is anything wrong with the analysis but because the inputs are inaccurate. What VCs say was the reason they were interested is not necessarily what made them interested. It may be what they tell themselves or tell you, but I think the decision criteria are rarely that objective or explicit. Decisions are made, then back justified with a plausible explanation.
It reminds me the “wrist snap” practice in tennis. I don’t remember the exact details, but it started because a successful tennis player said that’s what he does. Shortly after, thousands of trainers were teaching the method breaking wrist of naive students. It took high speed camera to confirm that no players use it [0]. The point is that people micro-tweak their behavior based on simple reward mechanism. Most can’t…
Only problem is that VCs normally don't give any!