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Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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I would say that absolute best predictor of getting a meeting is strong introductions. I hate to say this, but you'll have an easier time with a strong network.

A trusted introduction can even overcome a bad deck in some cases. But there should be no reason to have a bad deck now-a-days as there is ample reference and knowledge share.

First-time founders: Please don't pay for access. Services like this, in my opinion, are dubious at best. Work on building a network, blogging, open source, meeting other founders, going to VC events, tapping your alumni network, etc.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

#12
I wouldn’t trust these data, not because there is anything wrong with the analysis but because the inputs are inaccurate. What VCs say was the reason they were interested is not necessarily what made them interested. It may be what they tell themselves or tell you, but I think the decision criteria are rarely that objective or explicit. Decisions are made, then back justified with a plausible explanation.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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I am not sure what value this post is besides a sales pitch for the poster. Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? Also, How do you get more (cost of acquiring customers)? Market size? I suppose that's in the "underlying economics" section, but that's such a common question it should be addressed. VCs are looking for 100x return. Can you meet in person…

Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any?

This is 100% true and 10,000% annoying. Effectively it blocks anyone who has an idea for an idea for a business that needs seed capital from competing unless they're already wealthy (directly or able to raise funds from within their own network of friends and family). 15 years ago seed capital was exactly that - money that was available to fund a startup based on little more than an idea and a persuasive team. It was massively high risk but that was kind of the point. The taste for risk that VCs once had is gone. Today what people call seed rounds are really Series A. You need to have already done the high risk proof of concept work and actually have something on the market before VCs will take your call.

That's entirely up to VCs of course. If they want to do that they can. And no doubt they'll still make a lot of money. But society as a whole is faced with dull ideas thought up by middle class kids who want "innovative" ways to pay someone to do their chores because of it, and that pisses me off a lot.

End Rant.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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post #13
post #5

I am not sure what value this post is besides a sales pitch for the poster. Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? Also, How do you get more (cost of acquiring customers)? Market size? I suppose that's in the "underlying economics" section, but that's such a common question it should be addressed. VCs are looking for 100x return. Can you meet in person…

Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? This is 100% true and 10,000% annoying. Effectively it blocks anyone who has an idea for an idea for a business that needs seed capital from competing unless they're already wealthy (directly or able to raise funds from within their own network of friends and family). 15 years ago seed capital was exactly that - m…

This is correct. Big capital ideas can only be funded by wealthy people who have the ideas. Wealthy people by definition, have an interest in perpetuating the system that made them wealthy.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

#15
It’s often been said that VCs invest in people not products and there’s certainly some truth to that.

That said, having a realistic plan on how your idea turns into a sustainable business is certainly key too. That’s even more important with the economy we’re heading into where startups that are not financially stable are not long for this earth.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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post #12

I wouldn’t trust these data, not because there is anything wrong with the analysis but because the inputs are inaccurate. What VCs say was the reason they were interested is not necessarily what made them interested. It may be what they tell themselves or tell you, but I think the decision criteria are rarely that objective or explicit. Decisions are made, then back justified with a plausible explanation.

100% agreed. Most VC funds are necessarily good at very specific skill: convincing people who control lots of money that the VC is smarter and better than their competitors. The easiest way to sell that is to truly believe it, and then perform that belief convincingly. That's not something one switches on and off, so their answers here are likely to be skewed in the direction of things that make them look valuable.

Things like "team" and "gut check" are especially useful answers for that, because a) it lets VCs sound like intuitive geniuses who can't easily be replaced, and b) the I-know-it-when-I-see-it nature of those lets VCs smuggle in all sorts of irrational biases. As one well-known investor said, "There was a guy once who we funded who was terrible. I said: 'How could he be bad? He looks like Zuckerberg!'" Points for honesty, but you can bet that wasn't the official reason they invested.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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post #13
post #5

I am not sure what value this post is besides a sales pitch for the poster. Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? Also, How do you get more (cost of acquiring customers)? Market size? I suppose that's in the "underlying economics" section, but that's such a common question it should be addressed. VCs are looking for 100x return. Can you meet in person…

Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? This is 100% true and 10,000% annoying. Effectively it blocks anyone who has an idea for an idea for a business that needs seed capital from competing unless they're already wealthy (directly or able to raise funds from within their own network of friends and family). 15 years ago seed capital was exactly that - m…

Well, that's what happens when everything "standardizes" after the initial wave of disruption.

15 years ago, there weren't any "programming bootcamps" or "entrepreneurship workshops" or "become a UX ninja in 7 days crash course" to the extent that there is today, Harvard MBAs didn't give much of a crap about working in tech, computer science students were there for the nerdy stuff, not because they wanted to be the next Zuckerberg.

There just isn't much risk left in tech. The path is that now you start a weird crypto startup (which aren't even that weird anymore because there's dozens of them) while you're comfy at Stanford, you hope to get a fat check before you graduate, and if not you go work to Google. Or you quit Google, start your company, get some investment because you were at Google after all, and hopefully a few years later your startup gets bought by Google.

Tech startups just aren't weird and new and unknown anymore, as far as the money people are concerned. Does it fit their idea of what a company on its way to a billion dollar valuation looks like? If yes write a check, if not tell them thank you and let the next team in.

Re: Analyzing pitches to find what gets VCs interested in a meeting

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post #13
post #5

I am not sure what value this post is besides a sales pitch for the poster. Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? Also, How do you get more (cost of acquiring customers)? Market size? I suppose that's in the "underlying economics" section, but that's such a common question it should be addressed. VCs are looking for 100x return. Can you meet in person…

Don't mean to be overly critical, but really the number one factor is always customers. Do you have any? This is 100% true and 10,000% annoying. Effectively it blocks anyone who has an idea for an idea for a business that needs seed capital from competing unless they're already wealthy (directly or able to raise funds from within their own network of friends and family). 15 years ago seed capital was exactly that - m…

> But society as a whole is faced with dull ideas thought up by middle class kids who want "innovative" ways to pay someone to do their chores because of it, and that pisses me off a lot.

If true:

1) VCs will stop making money, or there is an endless money stream available to boring startups as long as the barrier to entry is kept up.

2) We will see stagnation in many industries but particularly tech, which will only make it easier for actual innovation to shine.

The endless money stream bit could be true, but if we accept that it negates 2), we should just give up anyway (or shift all focus to politics until it's solved).

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