Will cable TV be invaded by commercials? (1981)

Post by downerending » Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 2:50 AM UTC

nordsieck wrote: post #11

downerending wrote: post #7

It's like a creeping cancer that cannot be stopped. Back around 1981, advertisers would take a certain percentage of ad pages in each newspaper or magazine and consider it a reasonable deal. These days, they absolutely will not accept this unless they get a lot more space, obnoxious animations, force-play videos, and overlays that you have to click through, and often various registration walls, cross-site tracking, e…

> With ML, eventually this will become pervasive, even into the physical world. (My VR goggles will gray out billboards, etc.) Will your glasses grey out James Bond's Aston Martin in Goldfinger?

Post by 0xff00ffee » Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 2:53 AM UTC

dlbucci wrote: post #33

0xff00ffee wrote: post #21

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Not true. HULU still shows ads, even with "No Ads" version. From their website: Hulu (No Ads) Get First Month Free then $11.99/month A few excluded shows play with ads. [from here https://signup.hulu.com/plans ] That last line kills me. It's like H2G2, you can't have Tea and No Tea unless you remove your common sense particle.

I mean, you're not wrong, but it's only for three shows, and there are no ads during the shows, only before and after. It was 7 when it first launched, so it doesn't seem like any other shows or new content will ever have ads. But hey, if you watch Agents of Shield, Grey's Anatomy, or How to Get Away with Murder, that surely does suck.

Post by cure » Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 3:01 AM UTC

0xff00ffee wrote: post #21

rjtobin wrote: post #9

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I think there’s a chance it will be different: at least now there is the potential to offer customers an ad-free package for an extra cost. Some services like Hulu already do this (offering cheaper plan with ads and a slightly pricier plan with no ads). I think with cable this would have been difficult or impossible to achieve. One nice thing about this is it makes plain how much the networks make from showing ads to…

Not true. HULU still shows ads, even with "No Ads" version. From their website: Hulu (No Ads) Get First Month Free then $11.99/month A few excluded shows play with ads. [from here https://signup.hulu.com/plans ] That last line kills me. It's like H2G2, you can't have Tea and No Tea unless you remove your common sense particle.

Post by dlbucci » Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 3:03 AM UTC

0xff00ffee wrote: post #43

dlbucci wrote: post #33

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I mean, you're not wrong, but it's only for three shows, and there are no ads during the shows, only before and after. It was 7 when it first launched, so it doesn't seem like any other shows or new content will ever have ads. But hey, if you watch Agents of Shield, Grey's Anatomy, or How to Get Away with Murder, that surely does suck.

Huh. Thanks for figuring out what shows have ads! Yeah, I guess that isn't as bad as it seems if there are just a few. I didn't bother to look up what "excluded" meant.

Post by RandomBacon » Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 3:09 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #23

bosswipe wrote: post #20

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The only reason you can block ads on the web is because there was a small window where the idealistic academics that built the internet and the web were able to keep commercial interests out so they were able to use open universal protocols. The same will not be true for VR.

It’s already not true on mobile generally. No view source, no extensions, no user injected scripts. You get the page the server wants you to see.