The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016) • Hacker News Board

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by objektif » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:44 PM UTC

spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Just to tell you olive oil is not an American fad like orange juice. People in southern Europe, ME and northern Africa have been using it for a long long time.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by anonu » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:49 PM UTC

wickerman wrote: post #35

duck2 wrote: post #3

My grandma has an olive grove. When I last visited her, she offered me a jug of cured olive. I told her I find cured olives still bitter. She seemed very surprised and said she can't taste anything but olives recently. Maybe she leaves them a little bitter, because the bitterness is very "tasteable". I find it interesting how olive is praised in places it's planted. It's not just my grandma who adores olive. If you c…

As other people have mentioned, olive trees are native to the Canaanite region so they strongly feature there because that's what people were used to seeing. But to add to that, you'll also see a lot of mentions of Cedar trees (with some psalms and songs describing how the "voice of god" shakes the cedars in the mountains of Lebanon). Lebanon cedar was incredibly famous in antiquity for its resilience. Egyptians had…

Fun fact: The cedar is mentioned 75 times in the Old and New testament of the Bible.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by bregma » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:49 PM UTC

RickJWagner wrote: post #9

Olive articles like this!

Sure, but your pun is the pits.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by huffmsa » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:52 PM UTC

derrasterpunkt wrote: post #31

mbel wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's even more weird is all abrahamic religions mention olive in their books. Not weird at all. After all they all originate roughly from the same region.

Right, it would be weird if they mentioned potatoes or tomatoes in their texts.

> Tomatoes and potatoes in the Bible? Was it aliens?

Please delete this before the history channel finds it.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by DataWorker » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:55 PM UTC

rskar wrote: post #21

sureaboutthis wrote: post #6

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Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

Fruit juices should be seen as a form of processed sugar - even if the processing is not as substantial as making table sugar. Whole fruit - such as a whole orange or grape or apple - is a much better and nutritional choice. https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/health/fruit-juice-sugary-dri... https://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/juice-and-diabetes.html https://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f5001

Doesn’t the Bmj article say oranges increase the risk of type 2 and that fruits are all different. Blueberries are good, oranges and strawberries not so much. Still better than juice but that’s to be expected.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by krapp » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 12:59 PM UTC

huffmsa wrote: post #44

derrasterpunkt wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, it would be weird if they mentioned potatoes or tomatoes in their texts.

> Tomatoes and potatoes in the Bible? Was it aliens? Please delete this before the history channel finds it.

Some people who believe in the Mandela Effect conspiracy theory think the word "matrix" and unicorns being mentioned in the King James translation of the Bible are proof that our universe is a simulation being hacked by time travelers.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by thechao » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 1:31 PM UTC

sureaboutthis wrote: post #17

dasd99 wrote: post #13

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> And there is NO added sugar This is NO good argument - even without added sugar, orange juice is on par with coke (about 10 gram sugar/100 ml).

I will put people who say this in the same category. Anyone who thinks added sugar is the same as fruit sugar...well...

Dietary sugar—sugar that’s bound up along with fiber in its natural setting like fruits & vegetables—is a very different thing from non-dietary sugar. The former is fine; the latter is a chronic hepatotoxin that leads to metabolic disease, including lethargy, irritability, fat gain (sp. interstitial), and diabetes.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by coldtea » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 2:20 PM UTC

>Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option.

We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines...

Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).

Not to mention that "bitter" (within reason) is also a taste in the palette of tastes, not something to run away from.

Maybe Americans (like British) should refrain from opining about cuisine?

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by dmm » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #48

> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

You've plucked an olive from a tree and eaten it? Try it sometime and you'll see...

The olives eaten in Italian and Greek cuisines are all processed using one of the methods described in the article to remove the extremely bitter compound oleuropein.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 05, 2019, 2:30 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #48

> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

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