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The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by seszett »

sureaboutthis wrote: post #6
spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

> Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C!

Not it's not 71% vitamin C, it's about 0.05% vitamin C.

125 ml of orange juice provides about 71% of the daily vitamin C needs (60 mg), which is probably what you meant but very different from what you actually said.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by GlenTheMachine »

seszett wrote: post #5

> Black olives, though labeled as “ripe” on supermarket cans, actually aren’t: these, a California invention Maybe that's true of all black olives in the US, I don't know, but black olives are supposed to be ripe olives. Only the cheapest black olives are not ripened, and at least in France they cannot be called just "black olives". They're easy enough to distinguish as they are smooth and firm like green olives, rat…

These are very particular canned olives in the US that have a different taste. Twenty or thirty years ago they were the only black olives you could get here. They are still available, but now you can easily get real tree-ripened black olives as well.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by dasd99 »

sureaboutthis wrote: post #6
spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

> And there is NO added sugar

This is NO good argument - even without added sugar, orange juice is on par with coke (about 10 gram sugar/100 ml).

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by yakubin »

spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

I have a great love for both of these delicacies! :) Note: I don't drink orange juice bought from a shop, I make it myself from the oranges I buy. And I don't really care about their health effects. I just love the taste.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by sureaboutthis »

seszett wrote: post #11
sureaboutthis wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

> Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! Not it's not 71% vitamin C, it's about 0.05% vitamin C. 125 ml of orange juice provides about 71% of the daily vitamin C needs (60 mg), which is probably what you meant but very different from what you actually said.

Yes, it's what I meant but it will be lost on so many people.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by pfortuny »

spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Well, more olive oil with less butter seems a healthier option.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by sureaboutthis »

dasd99 wrote: post #13
sureaboutthis wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

> And there is NO added sugar This is NO good argument - even without added sugar, orange juice is on par with coke (about 10 gram sugar/100 ml).

I will put people who say this in the same category. Anyone who thinks added sugar is the same as fruit sugar...well...

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by bpierre »

seszett wrote: post #5

> Black olives, though labeled as “ripe” on supermarket cans, actually aren’t: these, a California invention Maybe that's true of all black olives in the US, I don't know, but black olives are supposed to be ripe olives. Only the cheapest black olives are not ripened, and at least in France they cannot be called just "black olives". They're easy enough to distinguish as they are smooth and firm like green olives, rat…

It’s sadly both allowed and common in France [1][2], the term they use is either “olives noires” (black olives) or “olives noires confites”.

[1] https://www.carrefour.fr/p/olives-noires-entieres-3560070340...

[2] https://www.carrefour.fr/p/olives-noires-denoyautees-crespo-...

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by DanBC »

sureaboutthis wrote: post #17
dasd99 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And there is NO added sugar This is NO good argument - even without added sugar, orange juice is on par with coke (about 10 gram sugar/100 ml).

I will put people who say this in the same category. Anyone who thinks added sugar is the same as fruit sugar...well...

Fruit juice contains high amounts of sugar. There's not much difference between the sugars in fruit juice and the sugars in cola. Fruit juice is not a healthy drink. This myth causes harm. Parents give their children fruit juice because they think it's healthy, and this causes toot decay.

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/...

> Like fizzy drinks, fruit juice and squash can be high in sugar, which can cause tooth decay. Because sugary drinks can be high in energy (calories), having these drinks too often can also lead to weight gain and obesity.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/water-drinks-nutrition...

> Unsweetened 100% fruit juice, vegetable juice and smoothies can only ever count as a maximum of 1 portion of your recommended 5 daily portions of fruit and vegetables.

> For example, if you have 2 glasses of fruit juice and a smoothie in 1 day, that still only counts as 1 portion.

> That's because fruit juice and smoothies don't contain the fibre found in whole fruits and vegetables. Have other types of fruit and vegetables for the other 4 (or more) portions.

> Fruit juice and smoothies also contains sugar that can damage teeth. It's best to drink them with a meal because this can help protect your teeth.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Post by chrisseaton »

sureaboutthis wrote: post #6
spodek wrote: post #2

I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

> it's too early in the morning for me to give you an education

This is rude.

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