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Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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It seems like the other top post for today ("Show HN: Switch from Medium to your own blog in a few minutes" [1] [2]) comes at a perfect time now. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20060549 [2] https://github.com/mathieudutour/medium-to-own-blog

Or even git(lab/hub)? if too lazy to set up your own.

Yeah, that solution does actually automatically put it out on github. I wish it wasn't locked to another vendor, but it's a good options.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Got no skin in the game, but why all this hate for medium? Sounds like they just don't want to do ads?

If you can't read the article, can you at least read the headline?

I am curious what “pressured” means. A threat? A shakedown? Or a polite email? The headline doesn’t really make it clear and the “article” is deleted.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Please delete this post. This is a private email I sent to the author. It was not intended to be shared on Twitter. We just want to move on and focus on the future.

Genuinely curious though, why try to sweep under the rug the sketchy tactics Medium tried to pull here? I think this should be a good warning for others. You can move on, and focus on the future but still reflect and share the past. They are not exclusive, in my opinion.

my best guess (albeit, guess -- don't know much about medium or freeCodeCamp) would be fear of further frivolous threats and potential legal actions on behalf of medium. Frivolous lawsuits, no matter how ridiculous (libel, whatever) can feel a lot less frivolous to small/non-profit organizations who don't have the capital to point this out in court or respond when companies beat them over the head with their greater resource pools and influence. Also, it seems likely if they were bringing that much traffic to medium, they probably do have good relationships with some individuals at medium and probably don't want to alienate those connections based on a couple poor decisions, which is totally understandable.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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I don't think Medium has fully grasped that people read most content because they are bored, not because they really care about the content; thus when you put the content behind a paywall, most people will just go find other ways to amuse their bored brains on the internet. Content on the internet is usually so shallow it's bordering near worthless; lots of people just repeating other people over and over. When it co…

Facebook hasn't figured this out with in-video ads. I don't care that much about how Tasty makes some baked good enough to sit through a 15-second ad to see the remainder of the video.

I make a habit of stopping the video as soon as I see the "Ad will start in X seconds" notice, in the vain hope that someone is paying attention to those metrics.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't read the article, can you at least read the headline?

I am curious what “pressured” means. A threat? A shakedown? Or a polite email? The headline doesn’t really make it clear and the “article” is deleted.

The HN discussion contains links to archived versions at the very top.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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From the thread, the email author says: > This email was intended only for Oleg and a few of our other authors. I have messaged him asking to delete it. We are focused on the future and want to move on from this.

Is that because they really want to move on or is it because the email doesn't tell the whole story? Curious to hear Medium's response.

It's probably because they're afraid of even more frivolous lawsuits coming from Medium.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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There are two kind of authors at Medium. There are those who try to earn money directly from their writing and those who just want to write and maybe monetize in other ways, maybe not monetize at all just make their writing a gift to the humanity. The second kind of authors hate the paywall.

What is worse is that there is a negative selection among those who want to earn from their writing - those who really know writing try to get into real journalism and the Medium authors are mostly those who try to earn money. That is not to say that there are no good writers, just last week I have eventually paid the Medium membership only because one author, but I am disappointed about the whole package. I presume there is better stuff written by the fist type of authors who write because they want to say something - but they are not recommended by Medium because they don't want the paywall. So being recommended is mostly a negative sign - it is often even written quite well - but with no depth.

I really wish Medium all the best - because the traditional media are failing and we as society, we have to find a way to support journalists. But the Medium experiment is probably failed one.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understood it, the request was from the founder of FCC who presumably doesn't want the drama. I get his concern, but as someone uninvolved in FCC but who does read Medium I'm glad to see this sort of thing out in the open.

I get his concern as well, but at the same time... why would ANYONE share something you might regret (like on this case) if the content is made public?

you've never told someone something in confidence?

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Why is this post still here? The original author of the email - Quincy Larson - said it was a private email. Sure the tweet is already available at archived links. That doesn't mean we can't be respectful of the wishes of the original author of a leaked private email. Especially someone who has put so much time and hard work into running a small non-profit helping people learn to code.
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