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Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by Semaphor »

propter_hoc wrote: post #28
Deimorz wrote: post #24

Hopefully someday we'll start recognizing the pattern. Sites built on large amounts of venture capital are literally too good to be true. They're able to lose tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars a year providing completely unsustainable services, but they can't keep doing it forever. When they start monetizing, they have to use methods that are far more aggressive than would have been needed originally, beca…

Hi Deimorz, are you the same /u/Deimorz who used to be an admin on reddit? I'm very interested to read this perspective from you. Do you think there is a viable third way forward for companies like Medium and reddit?

He is. And he is currently running the tildes.net non-profit, so I guess that says a bit ;)

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by twothamendment »

user00012-ab wrote: post #18

I don't think Medium has fully grasped that people read most content because they are bored, not because they really care about the content; thus when you put the content behind a paywall, most people will just go find other ways to amuse their bored brains on the internet. Content on the internet is usually so shallow it's bordering near worthless; lots of people just repeating other people over and over. When it co…

The nail has been hit on the head. I have more things I'd like to read than I do free time to read them. If I run into a paywall I'll bounce to something else, or go search for the same topic somewhere else.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by bluetidepro »

SamWhited wrote: post #30

Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20190531170114/https://twitter.c... Stop using Medium. Seriously, what will it take to get people off this terrible platform? It's bad for readers, bad for content creators, and doesn't even have the audience people claim to be benefiting from anymore. If you just want dead simple publishing (which was what Medium was supposed to be originally before it became terrible), try…

If that goes dead, here are the 2 screenshots of it:

- The tweet: https://bluetide.pro/EOVchT

- The img in the tweet: https://bluetide.pro/X6qAyN

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

user00012-ab wrote: post #18

I don't think Medium has fully grasped that people read most content because they are bored, not because they really care about the content; thus when you put the content behind a paywall, most people will just go find other ways to amuse their bored brains on the internet. Content on the internet is usually so shallow it's bordering near worthless; lots of people just repeating other people over and over. When it co…

Facebook hasn't figured this out with in-video ads. I don't care that much about how Tasty makes some baked good enough to sit through a 15-second ad to see the remainder of the video.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by _ps6d »

propter_hoc wrote: post #28
Deimorz wrote: post #24

Hopefully someday we'll start recognizing the pattern. Sites built on large amounts of venture capital are literally too good to be true. They're able to lose tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars a year providing completely unsustainable services, but they can't keep doing it forever. When they start monetizing, they have to use methods that are far more aggressive than would have been needed originally, beca…

Hi Deimorz, are you the same /u/Deimorz who used to be an admin on reddit? I'm very interested to read this perspective from you. Do you think there is a viable third way forward for companies like Medium and reddit?

That's me, yes. And you're setting me up so perfectly here that I almost feel guilty about it:

A few months after I left reddit, I started a non-profit and have been building a new HN/reddit-like community site that can stick to the principles I believe are important (including being entirely user-supported with no investors or ads). The announcement post is probably still the best explanation overall: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes (HN discussion of it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17103093)

The site's been public to view (but still needs an invite to register) for a few months now, so anyone can have a look: https://tildes.net

Feel free to email me for an invite if anyone's interested, the address is in the blog post. It's not intended to be difficult to get an invite, I just want to keep the growth under control while we keep building up a base site culture and features.

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by minimaxir »

taytus wrote: post #21
derivagral wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understood it, the request was from the founder of FCC who presumably doesn't want the drama. I get his concern, but as someone uninvolved in FCC but who does read Medium I'm glad to see this sort of thing out in the open.

I get his concern as well, but at the same time... why would ANYONE share something you might regret (like on this case) if the content is made public?

For sensitive communications within a organization, generally it's implied that the contents are secret and shouldn't be disclosed.

In this case, the communications aren't sensitive (not even a "keep this on the down low" caveat), and the recipients of the email generally aren't in the organization (it was sent to "a few of our other authors", using the royal "our").

Re: Medium pressured freeCodeCamp to put the articles behind the firewall

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Post by simlevesque »

quincyla wrote: post #13

Please delete this post. This is a private email I sent to the author. It was not intended to be shared on Twitter. We just want to move on and focus on the future.

> It was not intended to be shared on Twitter.

That's not how the internet works.

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