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Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…

It's not a thin client though...

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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post #27

Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…

> The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news.

It is bigger news than you might think. The Mac App Store has resoundingly failed to attract most "premium" Mac apps. Skype? No. Spotify? No. Chrome? No. Photoshop? No. VMware? No. Steam? No. Minecraft? No. Dropbox? No. Sketch? Left.

The redesigned App Store app was the first signal in years that Apple was starting to take it seriously again, and now they've brought one of the most popular pieces of software to the store. That's a big move.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

#44
post #34

Is it sandboxed?

What did office do before that would have required a non-sandboxed implementation? One pro-sandboxing point for office would be not allowing any sort of auto-updates if the user doesn't want them (and no repeated bugging of users about it).

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

#45

The million (10 million? 100 Million) dollar question that I haven't seen addressed yet (but I'm sure will be, if it hasn't already) - is what % cut Apple is getting from the subscription revenue.

On this note, Apple's 30% flat tax is a poor decision. I wonder how much of a hit Apple would take if the first $5000 per year per app was rebated. There's a long tail of mild-moderately successful apps that provide value to some, but may not be economic to continue. With this system, devs could re-invest ~50% more funds into their early-stage product if they could. It may pay for itself in future success and better…

I agree. I wrote a proposal for how this could work:

https://blog.anylist.com/2015/02/open-letter-to-tim-cook-reg...

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’ve been going back and forth between using the same codebase and separate codebases since the 90s.

Can I get a source on that? Looks like they haven't had a shared codebase in almost 20 years.

I did say since the 90s and Word 6 was the last version they released until Word ‘98

http://lowendmac.com/2013/microsoft-word-for-mac-faq/

Word 6.0, launched in 1993, is widely considered to be the worst version of Word ever for the Mac, as it was based on the same codebase as Word 6.0 for Windows. That meant that it looked and worked more like Windows software than a Macintosh program. Mac users were so up in arms that Microsoft actually released a Word 5.1 downgrade to unhappy Word 6.0 owners.

It was five years before Microsoft unleashed another version of Word for the Mac,

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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post #35
post #26

I'm wondering if it's worth uninstalling Office and reinstalling. If it uses the App Store update mechanism instead of Microsoft Autoupdate I would prefer it. Autoupdate presents a window almost every time a launch an Office application.

Microsoft AutoUpdate used to pop up, but lately the updating has happened in the background and I haven't seen any window. Because of that I don't want to install the App Store version, because it seems like any obtrusive update (one that requires my attention) is more likely to occur in that venue.

If you have the App Store set to allow automatic updates, you should never see anything - it will always happen in the background.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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post #38
post #26

I'm wondering if it's worth uninstalling Office and reinstalling. If it uses the App Store update mechanism instead of Microsoft Autoupdate I would prefer it. Autoupdate presents a window almost every time a launch an Office application.

And half the time Autoupdate just wants to update itself!

s/half/nearly every time

Then again, Apple's not immune to this. Nine times out of ten, Software Update for Windows has an urgent update for Software Update for Windows.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

#49

The million (10 million? 100 Million) dollar question that I haven't seen addressed yet (but I'm sure will be, if it hasn't already) - is what % cut Apple is getting from the subscription revenue.

> Users can also purchase a subscription for Office 365 from within the apps, so they can get up and running instantly. This would tend to suggest that Apple isn't getting a cut. Normally when they take one, it's on the basis of funds being transferred via their store, which doesn't appear to be the case here. But this is a massive deal between two of the ecosystem's biggest fish, and I'm sure an arrangement has been…

Keyword in your quote is "also". An in-app subscription billed through iTunes is explicitly written in the document as supported, so Apple will be getting a cut.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

#50
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Apple let developers negotiate their fee? I thought it was a flat 30% for the first year and 15% after that?

They don't let "developers" negotiate their fee, but Microsoft and Netflix certainly do.

Netflix doesn't anymore. They stopped allowing new in-app purchases. Existing subscriptions done through iTunes, Apple still gets their cut; but from now on, Netflix subscriptions must be done through the website.
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