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What Happens When Facebook Goes the Way of Myspace?

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I'm starting to suspect they are trying to extort better ad prices from Facebook. This won't stop until they cave. I hope they don't cave. The press already has enough power as it is.

Good. The press should have more power than corporations. Especially corporations with the moral standing of Facebook.

The NYT is a corporation. A corporation who lied about the WMD, garnering support for a war which caused death and endless suffering to millions of people.

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Facebook as a website can go the way of MySpace. But Facebook as a company will probably not. The subject is touched a bit toward the end of the article but the reality is this: Facebook has reached a critical mass, as a company, that MySpace never did. As such, they can just continue to buy all the other new social network that pop-up and make sure that they have a dominant position in the social network market. Unl…

Facebook today is in the same place as Microsoft in 2003-2007. Bad old API decisions made in pursuit of quick marketshare have come back to haunt. The main product is seen as lackluster and stagnated. Entries into new markets are seen as "me too" and out of sync with the brand image (Portal and Lasso might be Facebook's Zune). Microsoft survived all that and is now the world's most valuable corporation again. Faceboo…

Facebook is far from where Microsoft were in 2003-2007. Most people (90-something percent?) could chose between Microsoft or Apple or no computer at all.

Ordinary consumers could not use a text editor, a spreadsheet, send an email, or browse the internet, without doing it form either a Windows or Apple computer. Apple was a secluded niche for graphical designers and the like. Almost everybody else used a Windows computer. There were whole industries where everybody only used Windows operating system and the Office suite and where you could not work without.

Almost nothing ties me to Facebook and most businesses are not dependent on Facebook in any way. I can use computers, phones etc. without Facebook. I can contact people without it, write to them, see their pictures and videos etc. I can go online without. Most companies nowadays function perfectly fine without Facebook. If Facebook disappeared, only a few niches such as game studios, advertisers etc. would truly lose customers or the ability to work with others. Most advertising could be done through other channels in a matter of hours. Contacts with friends could be made in days using other platforms.

I was going to say that Facebook is where Microsoft were at some point in the late 70s or early 80s when it was just one out of several alternatives, but the comparison is just not good.

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Microsoft lives on enterprise sales; AD domain servers, CALs, Exchange, SQL server. I’m not sure Facebook has an equivalent product.

Instead of AD servers it has ad servers.

and clients

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There are plenty of examples of companies facing a saturated market. The logical next step is to grow vertically as you cannot grow horizontally anymore. Some succeed, many fail. In the long run, nearly all companies fail.

> There are plenty of examples of companies facing a saturated market Globally though? Are there companies that have saturated the entire planet. Facebook use is BOOMING in the developing world. I've been moving around Africa though 30 countries for 2.5 yeas now - it's rare to meet someone that doesn't have Facebook and whatsapp.

And this trend is to please the market by showing growing numbers of users due to developed countries having reached saturation and even increasing decline in the age range that matters (which lead to buying whatsapp and instagram at insane price tag as a defensive measure akin to panic).

But this growing numbers of users happen to lower the ARPU (average revenue per user) as those users generates almost no revenue and there's no opportunity to change that anytime soon.

There's a reason market capitalization of Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Microsoft lost about 1000 billions dollars collectively and about 20% in the recent months.

There is a form of awareness that these companies are overvalued much, that market are saturated and they are going to face the reality in the near future.

Having a lot Africans using facebook is just adding to its operating cost at the moment, economic gains from Africa are going to China. China is taking over Africa's economy at an alarming pace, not facebook.

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Whatever vendetta the nytimes has with facebook has drawn too far too long. yawn

I'm starting to suspect they are trying to extort better ad prices from Facebook. This won't stop until they cave. I hope they don't cave. The press already has enough power as it is.

It might not even be about ad prices. Facebook was instrumental in taking a lot of eyeballs from the news sites as news stories end up on your feed and some people might not bother to open the article.

Also, regular NYT users now have feed stories coming from other news sources as well so their reliance on NYT as the only source gets reduced.

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At a certain point, Facebook might face being either broken up or outright nationalized in some places...

the seperation of whatsapp and facebook has recently been up to debate. Mainly for apperently breaching terms of the acquisition. Whatsapp is so universal it should really be either a federated system or a public utility.

Whatsapp is not universal, privacy aware people are keeping themselves and friends away from whatsapp.

That being said what you are saing is basically that whatsapp should be something totally different, akin to riot.im

I do agree though that a global public service of E2E encrypted communication should exist, but whatsapp is the last option I'd consider for such a service.

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This article reads like something between a hit-piece and a I-don't-like-Facebook-opinion-piece. A similarly article could be written about Google but it is not. I think the interesting question is why not?

> A similarly article could be written about Google but it is not. I think the interesting question is why not?

Because they did with the shuttering of Google+ and nobody batted an eyelash.

I would add "unless you mean their main product" but what is that nowadays anyway?

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I miss Myspace, it was way less creepy and IMHO led to much more meaningful communication.

All I remember from MySpace is "Thanks for the add!"

My favorite part was visiting my friends pimped out page and having my computer freeze. It was more free, injecting html and css directly on the page.
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