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Chinese erotic writer jailed for more than 10 years over gay sex scenes in novel
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#42Censorship of erotic material isn't a purely Chinese thing, other countries practice it at smaller scales. In England, various fictional artworks can be prosecuted under the Obscene Publications act, even possession of some cartoon pornography can be prosecuted under CAJA 2009 s.63. To the dismay of LGBTQ+ and sexual freedom campaigners, even possession of simulated rape pornography is illegal. That's not to say that…
Are you completely sure you want to use CAJA 2009 as your example? On the subject of pornography, that Act only covers images of sex with children (or images of children witnessing bestiality). I presume you have some justification for asserting that LGBTQ+ campaigners had issues with that part of the Act because that's a pretty provocative assertion. My recollection (and the only evidence I can find from searching)…
>Are you completely sure you want to use CAJA 2009 as your example?
Yes, I am sure. Several researchers have noted also there is very little, if any, rational justification for that censorship. On what grounds do you say the concerns of the artists was baseless? My comment on LGBT campaigners was in reference to Cameron's 2015 law on simulated rape pornography.
Re: Chinese erotic writer jailed for more than 10 years over gay sex scenes in novel
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you're saying may well be true, but it has no bearing on the case in this article. Based on the article, it appears that the author wasn't jailed for writing gay sex scenes, but rather for selling books with sex scenes of any kind . Apparently China has a law against selling pornographic books of any kind, and this author ran afoul of it.
Said laws are likely made to be enforced selectively when a distraction is needed or a pretext. One naughty book in a library and you have something to vilify that troublesome bookseller over.
Got any proof of this? Or does it just "feel" like the truth?
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Said laws are likely made to be enforced selectively when a distraction is needed or a pretext. One naughty book in a library and you have something to vilify that troublesome bookseller over.
Got any proof of this? Or does it just "feel" like the truth?
I did say likely - it is possible they are sincere in their doctrines. Why I think this is more conjecture than proven fact or feeling. Laws everyone breaks and are enforced only when convenient is a classic totalitarian tactic for control.
Given other accounts about things like the lax pollution enforcement until it causes a loss of face and how corruption charges were used more for solidifying President for Life status than actually reducing corruption cynical motivations are consistent.
Re: Chinese erotic writer jailed for more than 10 years over gay sex scenes in novel
#45Its not safe to be queer. There are broad societal protection that one loses out on the second they aren't straight acting and cis-gendered, all it takes is a shift in the political winds for governments to start rounding up any class or minority they don't like. There are "safer" places in the world to be queer, but the threat of danger and violence never goes away, even in gayborhoods like here in parts of Seattle.
> There are "safer" places in the world to be queer, but the threat of danger and violence never goes away, even in gayborhoods like here in parts of Seattle. 100% true. And the risk is multiplied for those of us who are both queer and not-white. Yes, sometimes there are ways to mitigate that risk, but most of the time, it's just there - nothing we can do except hope that we're lucky.
This is on point. HN blows chunks for downvoting you, but whadaya expect from a site heavily populated by cis-gendered techbros pushing a lawbertarian agenda?
Re: Chinese erotic writer jailed for more than 10 years over gay sex scenes in novel
#46Its not safe to be queer. There are broad societal protection that one loses out on the second they aren't straight acting and cis-gendered, all it takes is a shift in the political winds for governments to start rounding up any class or minority they don't like. There are "safer" places in the world to be queer, but the threat of danger and violence never goes away, even in gayborhoods like here in parts of Seattle.
How do you explain the extremely high domestic violence rates amongst gay couples? It might be higher than Hetero couples. It seems gay is not even safe with gay.
I would love to see a citation for this, as I can't find domestic violence statistics for this. Most of the domestic violence I hear about is family attacking the queer member of the household, my current SO has multiple scars from that, and my prior one left home at 16 to get away from the abuse.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you explain the extremely high domestic violence rates amongst gay couples? It might be higher than Hetero couples. It seems gay is not even safe with gay.
Source please? I’ve never heard this.
I couldn't find anything on domestic violence among gay couples, but I would be surprised if it were notable.
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#48Its not safe to be queer. There are broad societal protection that one loses out on the second they aren't straight acting and cis-gendered, all it takes is a shift in the political winds for governments to start rounding up any class or minority they don't like. There are "safer" places in the world to be queer, but the threat of danger and violence never goes away, even in gayborhoods like here in parts of Seattle.
How do you explain the extremely high domestic violence rates amongst gay couples? It might be higher than Hetero couples. It seems gay is not even safe with gay.
> How do you explain the extremely high domestic violence rates amongst gay couples?
A combination of indirect effects of heteronormative broader society:
"We found evidence that supports the minority stress model - the idea that being part of a minority creates additional stress," he says.
"There are external stressors, like discrimination and violence against gays, and there are internal stressors, such as internalised negative attitudes about homosexuality."
Re: Chinese erotic writer jailed for more than 10 years over gay sex scenes in novel
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Said laws are likely made to be enforced selectively when a distraction is needed or a pretext. One naughty book in a library and you have something to vilify that troublesome bookseller over.
Got any proof of this? Or does it just "feel" like the truth?
The history of Pride Parades is literally beating back the cops who were out for blood, selectively enforcing laws: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
Modern corporate "pride" parades blow chunks in comparison, just a scam by large companies to create a new holiday to profit on while garnering community goodwill.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true for every minority everywhere - for ethnic, religious and as you mentioned sexual minorities. The threat that the majority would turn the tables on you is always a future threat.
It's a matter of degree surely. There are plenty of places in the world where a straight, white Westerner can live as a minority with relatively little fear of violence. Almost none for a gay person.
Gotta love it when HN downvotes you for reasonable comments!
To the downvoters of OP, where is safe from harassment and attacks? Here in Seattle, the queer haters literally roll in and beat us up for fun, even enclaves like Fire Island aren't going to be able to avoid this threat.