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Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Two quick questions for anyone that has already tested it: - Does it include a dark theme by default, or not yet? :-/ - Can you install flatpak with `apt-get` or do you need to install some apt sources first?

`apt install flatpak` totally works. Why wouldn't it?

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Unfortunately, I think Canonical has lost their focus on the desktop user. Every version of Ubuntu since 16.04 has had major issues for me. I have given every one of them a chance to redeem themselves, right up to today trying 18.10. Still no dice... For me, as boring as it sounds, Debian 9 (Stretch) with XFCE is rock solid as a daily driver. I'm not some fuddy duddy doing nothing but text editing either. I code ever…

What major issues you encountered on 18.04?

Well for one, at release, if you mistype your password, and then type it correctly, gdm would crash and you had to hard reboot.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031797/ubuntu-18-upgrade-fa...

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

The harsh reality is that every distribution has these last-minute creepers. More user engagement would help here, much more than crying for the next distro.

Use whatever you like since each has their own policies for a reason that makes sense IMHO.

If you do not care for professional/commercial use cases, install Arch Linux. It almost never breaks (zero times for me in six years of use) and always has the latest and gives you stuff mostly unmodified (as in just patching needed to make it run somehow).

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wayland is actually pretty stable. Nvidia has problem with OpenGL in Xwayland (i.e. 3d accel for x11 apps), otherwise, it should work. There are warts though, when using Wayland. When using scaling (doesn't have to be fractional, either), X11 apps are being upscaled, not downscaled, resulting in blurriness. Unfortunately, neither Firefox nor Chrome does support Wayland natively, and who wants to use their most used a…

Must admit I don't understand what Wayland is, or X server for that matter. Would someone mind explaining it, for someone a bit dull of mind as myself?

In short: X.org is a decade old display server that became the standard to display graphical window on the majority of Linux distribution. GNOME, KDE, XFCE and others are/were client to this display server.

Wayland is a new protocol where the window manager (ie GNOME, KDE,...) is responsible of directly managing the display. Each window manager must reimplement this protocol (or use a library already doing this work) which enable them to have more control over the windows.

Applications must also directly support Wayland like they did for X.org before (which was the default commonly used, so no problem) or the user just have XWayland installed on their computer to show X.org windows inside a Wayland WM but then the application may not display correctly (blur, artifcats,...)

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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You mean the fact that Dropbox only supports unencrypted ext4 now? No, that is Dropbox's new intentional behavior, they have no plans to resume sync support for linux.

Couldn't you just fake it in a container pretending it was ext4? Apart from the real question: why Dropbox when you can rsync and others.

Obligatory: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 (yes that's a four-digit post ID)

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the fact that Dropbox only supports unencrypted ext4 now? No, that is Dropbox's new intentional behavior, they have no plans to resume sync support for linux.

Couldn't you just fake it in a container pretending it was ext4? Apart from the real question: why Dropbox when you can rsync and others.

... because dropbox is cross-platform, user-friendly, doesn't require use of the commandline or configuring an upstream source, has a web interface, simple sharing with others, etc etc etc etc

Those kinds of "can't you just..." or "why use [easy user-friendly popular thing] when you could [complicated nerdy feature-bare alternative]" answers are rarely helpful and typically come across as condescending.

Yes, there are complicated containerized or fancy disk volume spoofing workarounds, and there are also alternatives (I like SpiderOak), but none are as simple as using dropbox was.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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post #45
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Must admit I don't understand what Wayland is, or X server for that matter. Would someone mind explaining it, for someone a bit dull of mind as myself?

In short: X.org is a decade old display server that became the standard to display graphical window on the majority of Linux distribution. GNOME, KDE, XFCE and others are/were client to this display server. Wayland is a new protocol where the window manager (ie GNOME, KDE,...) is responsible of directly managing the display. Each window manager must reimplement this protocol (or use a library already doing this work)…

It is perhaps worth noting that while X.org is about a decade old, it is an implementation of the X Window System protocol which dates back to the mid 80s.

Suffice to say, quite a lot has changed in computer graphics/interfaces since that time, and most modern *nix operating systems end up circumventing quite a lot of X to offer modern features. Thus X brings quite a lot of legacy debt to the table which can't be easily removed.

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