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Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

I think it's an issue with SVG icons (this format doesn't support fractional scaling, but TTF fonts do).

>I think it's an issue with SVG icons

How so??? SVG is a vector format

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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Unfortunately, I think Canonical has lost their focus on the desktop user. Every version of Ubuntu since 16.04 has had major issues for me. I have given every one of them a chance to redeem themselves, right up to today trying 18.10. Still no dice... For me, as boring as it sounds, Debian 9 (Stretch) with XFCE is rock solid as a daily driver. I'm not some fuddy duddy doing nothing but text editing either. I code ever…

They just have decided like Red-Hat did before them, that there is no money to be made on the Linux desktops and they better focus on IoT and server as long term survival plan.

There was a blog post about it.

Yet they still have one of the best laptop support.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

I think it's an issue with SVG icons (this format doesn't support fractional scaling, but TTF fonts do).

The whole point of svg and (vector graphics) is that you can scale them to whatever you want.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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post #6

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Maybe it's because when you set fractional scaling you lose pixel perfect design (icons, images, and so). https://icons8.com/articles/make-pixel-perfect-icons/

It dosen't happen that way on windows. I had scaling set to 1.25 and got no issues anywhere. The issue with linux is that X wasn't designed for this and Wayland is still unstable/unusable (thanks nvidia)

Wayland is actually pretty stable. Nvidia has problem with OpenGL in Xwayland (i.e. 3d accel for x11 apps), otherwise, it should work.

There are warts though, when using Wayland. When using scaling (doesn't have to be fractional, either), X11 apps are being upscaled, not downscaled, resulting in blurriness. Unfortunately, neither Firefox nor Chrome does support Wayland natively, and who wants to use their most used app on their computer in blurry mode?

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

Canonical need to be clearer that the LTS releases are the real releases, and the interim 6-monthly releases are more like developer previews.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

The planned release of Fedora 29 was just yesterday pushed back by a week due to blocker bugs. Personally, this sort of quality control is what makes me really appreciate Fedora. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-2...

Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu's bugs. I haven't had any real issues since, it's just solid.

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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As always, kudos to Canonical to deliver one of the most mature distribution. But. 2018. And still no fractional scaling. This drives me mad. (changing the text scaling is not a solution). Ok, there was Mir, Wayland is late (again)... how can this problem not be solved in 10 years? (genuine question)

Maybe it's because when you set fractional scaling you lose pixel perfect design (icons, images, and so). https://icons8.com/articles/make-pixel-perfect-icons/

Who on earth would prefer that to proper scaling?

Re: Ubuntu 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Released

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's an issue with SVG icons (this format doesn't support fractional scaling, but TTF fonts do).

The whole point of svg and (vector graphics) is that you can scale them to whatever you want.

If you do fractional scaling on a svg image, pixels will not align to the pixel grid and the image will look blury. You won't notice that on big svg images, but tiny ui icons will definitely look blurry.

There was even a (never implemented) proposal to allow svg files to handle this problem.

https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Proposals/SVG_hintin...

That's why svg icons are often designed using a 24x24 pixel grid, so you can scale them at 48X48 (x2), 72x72 (x3), 96x96 (x4) and they remain pixel perfect and crisp at those sizes.

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