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Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Finance is just a pile of third-parties trusting each other in exchange for money.

Or business in general.

Or (generalizing money to utility) society in general.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Thanks a ton for the thoughtful feedback, hugely appreciated. We have much better charting coming soon. You'll be able to compare different securities, log scale, bar charts. URL params for things like the range are a good idea. (And sorry, what do you mean by leave the app? Clicking on a company somewhere should take you to bravos.co/AAPL, no?

> (And sorry, what do you mean by leave the app? When I click between "Watchlists" and "Market News" on the left sidebar, the sidebar stays in place as I would expect from a single page app experience. However, when I click on a stock, it appears that the page reloads, as the left sidebar flickers a little bit. It's still a fast experience switching between stocks, but I'm guessing it could be even faster if local st…

Ah good call, thank you. We've optimized some things on the app, but have a lot more to do.

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It is mind boggling to me that both Google and Yahoo have thrown away their finance sites. It's utter garbage. And on the phone, Google Finance is even worse. They don't even use the same site or the same behavior, even though I'm pointing to the same URL. It's insane. Why would they completely disregard finance? Are they really not able to make a profitable site using ads?

What's funny to me is that so many people complain about large tech companies eating up every product category and preventing competition. But when they later kill these products, people complain all the same. Which is it? Seems like an opportunity for someone else, if it was really being relied on that much. I suspect it wasn't. The author of the article said he hadn't checked in six years. Six years! And he's compl…

> Which is it?

It's different people complaining in each case.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Could you sell it as desktop software with replacable plug-in data feeds for each source of information?

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Looks like a great start, thanks for posting. For me, a killer feature would be charts with the option to include total return including reinvested dividends etc. I would happily pay for that if the data was accurate. I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the dividends listed in Google/Yahoo finance are often incomplete for common index funds. And it drives me nuts when I can't add them into the charts. Good luc…

That's great to know, thank you. We'll prioritize being able to show the charts with and without dividends reinvested.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Quick feedback. On desktop, Firefox 62 / Chrome 69, Windows 10.

I immediately went to put in eg MSFT in the search box in the upper left. When I hit enter it just blanks the input box. The search icon is non-reactive to clicking. The only way the search box fires properly is if I click on the auto-suggest that drops below the input box. You should definitely wire up the icon to trigger the search, and enter needs to work as well.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Could you sell it as desktop software with replacable plug-in data feeds for each source of information?

Possibly - I'm curious what you had in mind? Could you tell me any more about the use case?

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It is mind boggling to me that both Google and Yahoo have thrown away their finance sites. It's utter garbage. And on the phone, Google Finance is even worse. They don't even use the same site or the same behavior, even though I'm pointing to the same URL. It's insane. Why would they completely disregard finance? Are they really not able to make a profitable site using ads?

When did Yahoo throw out their finance site? https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/

They didn't. No idea where the parent is coming from on that. It still functions much the same as it has for the last 15 years and still provides real-time quotes, proper financials, news, press releases, charts, etc.

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You're right - there's always a lot of corner cases and "handling" that you have to do for financial data. But it's very possible. You're basically saying you should be able to enter that you bought 100 shares AAPL in 2004 at $15... what is your total return? (We only have watchlists today, but we're designing more of the features that are "portfolio"-like and this is great feedback.)

Right. I always worry when I'm presented a price plot over more than a few months that there is something masking the real picture, which is total return, or price + cash flow. For any "portfolio"-like feature you're going to want total return and not price action return.

Exactly! If I’m looking at a 5 year chart for any given stock, I don’t really care what the nominal price was, I care about the total return. Even more so when comparing 2 stocks.

Killer feature would be historical charts that include re-invested dividends.

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