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Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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That is the problem with depending on a third part service. Even if it was a company that you paid for the service, at some point they might not find it profitable and close down the service or company.

Finance is just a pile of third-parties trusting each other in exchange for money.

Or business in general.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

I spent 10 minutes surfing around, and overall, I really like the layout, sparklines, and navigation. It looks like you're using Highcharts for the main graphs, and if they support transitions out-of-the-box, that'd be nice to have that turned on. For example, when zooming out from 1M to 1Y, it's a little tough to see the recent 1 month changes in the context of 1 year. The axis transitions just makes it a bit more d…

Thanks a ton for the thoughtful feedback, hugely appreciated.

We have much better charting coming soon. You'll be able to compare different securities, log scale, bar charts. URL params for things like the range are a good idea.

(And sorry, what do you mean by leave the app? Clicking on a company somewhere should take you to bravos.co/AAPL, no?

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Hey, cool! A while ago I was looking for an API that would give me the calendar date that quarterly earnings were reported historically, ideally for all public companies (but a large subset like the S&P500 would do). Do you know if anyone tracks this data, and if so where I might find it?

Not the OP but I have side projects in similar veins. I didn't find any great sources for this, so I ended up scraping Zacks and similar sites; both for backfill and future.

If anyone found something easier, I'd certainly be curious as well.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Looks like a great start, thanks for posting.

For me, a killer feature would be charts with the option to include total return including reinvested dividends etc. I would happily pay for that if the data was accurate.

I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the dividends listed in Google/Yahoo finance are often incomplete for common index funds. And it drives me nuts when I can't add them into the charts.

Good luck!

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Hey, cool! A while ago I was looking for an API that would give me the calendar date that quarterly earnings were reported historically, ideally for all public companies (but a large subset like the S&P500 would do). Do you know if anyone tracks this data, and if so where I might find it?

Yeah, that should be possible with a moderate amount of work. We probably won't support it very soon, but I would start with Intrinio, which is relatively easy to work with compared to some of the bigger providers:

https://intrinio.com/financial-data/zacks-eps-surprises?meth... https://intrinio.com/financial-data/wall-street-horizon?meth...

Feel free to PM me if I can help any further.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Apologies in advance if this sounds overly negative: this is not a replacement for Google Finance. This is a portfolio tracker. The first two things I checked for that made GF different and important (to me, at least) were company financials and an advanced stock search.

Company financials are self explanatory (quarterly breakdowns of cash, income, etc), the stock search allowed you to pare down stocks based on market cap, div &, P/E, etc, and was a wonderful tool for discovery.

Your site is nice, but it offers almost nothing over what every brokerage I've used offers: watchlists, news. Crypto is a nice addition, but Robinhood has that, and Robinhood has my actual transaction history.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

I signed up, very cool stuff! Is there any feasible way to build total return functionality in? This was always a major gripe of mine with Google Finance, and why M* is preferred for non-trading, investing purposes. I imagine you would need reliable dividend (ex-div date, price, amount, etc) information, and I'm not sure what your data sources are.

You're right - there's always a lot of corner cases and "handling" that you have to do for financial data. But it's very possible.

You're basically saying you should be able to enter that you bought 100 shares AAPL in 2004 at $15... what is your total return?

(We only have watchlists today, but we're designing more of the features that are "portfolio"-like and this is great feedback.)

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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I spent 10 minutes surfing around, and overall, I really like the layout, sparklines, and navigation. It looks like you're using Highcharts for the main graphs, and if they support transitions out-of-the-box, that'd be nice to have that turned on. For example, when zooming out from 1M to 1Y, it's a little tough to see the recent 1 month changes in the context of 1 year. The axis transitions just makes it a bit more d…

Thanks a ton for the thoughtful feedback, hugely appreciated. We have much better charting coming soon. You'll be able to compare different securities, log scale, bar charts. URL params for things like the range are a good idea. (And sorry, what do you mean by leave the app? Clicking on a company somewhere should take you to bravos.co/AAPL, no?

> (And sorry, what do you mean by leave the app?

When I click between "Watchlists" and "Market News" on the left sidebar, the sidebar stays in place as I would expect from a single page app experience. However, when I click on a stock, it appears that the page reloads, as the left sidebar flickers a little bit.

It's still a fast experience switching between stocks, but I'm guessing it could be even faster if local state is updated with a new selected stock's information with the app shell already in place. Maybe that's exactly what's happening, but the left sidebar flickering just a little bit makes it "feel" like the site is refreshing.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I signed up, very cool stuff! Is there any feasible way to build total return functionality in? This was always a major gripe of mine with Google Finance, and why M* is preferred for non-trading, investing purposes. I imagine you would need reliable dividend (ex-div date, price, amount, etc) information, and I'm not sure what your data sources are.

You're right - there's always a lot of corner cases and "handling" that you have to do for financial data. But it's very possible. You're basically saying you should be able to enter that you bought 100 shares AAPL in 2004 at $15... what is your total return? (We only have watchlists today, but we're designing more of the features that are "portfolio"-like and this is great feedback.)

Right. I always worry when I'm presented a price plot over more than a few months that there is something masking the real picture, which is total return, or price + cash flow. For any "portfolio"-like feature you're going to want total return and not price action return.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Apologies in advance if this sounds overly negative: this is not a replacement for Google Finance. This is a portfolio tracker. The first two things I checked for that made GF different and important (to me, at least) were company financials and an advanced stock search. Company financials are self explanatory (quarterly breakdowns of cash, income, etc), the stock search allowed you to pare down stocks based on marke…

Super helpful thanks. We're definitely early, and we don't have the resources yet that Google had to throw at GF!

Fundamental data is coming soon, for sure. We'll show you 10 years of historical data (annual and quarterly) for income statement, cash flows, and balance sheet.

Screening will come too, although it's not requested as often so we haven't prioritized it. The API, mobile apps, and improved charting are next for us.

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