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Re: Brave files adtech complaint against Google

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This comes at the same time that Malwarebytes starts flagging Brave as malware[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/lukesawczak/status/1039854898068815873

That has nothing to do with Brave, it's just another failure of antivirus / antimalware approach. Nothing new. EDIT: not sure why they prefer blacklisting to whitelisting, anyone know the reasons?

Because if it is whitelisted then anything new or obscure is blocked. Fine with enterprise IT but not consumers.

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This comes at the same time that Malwarebytes starts flagging Brave as malware[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/lukesawczak/status/1039854898068815873

What kind of conspiracy are you suggesting? It's not like false positives are uncommon.

And indeed, it feels like one should assume that a program that replaces page-originated requests for web resources with requests for different web resources would look an awful lot like malware to a naive heuristic based on the design of past malware.

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Seems like a strange choice to file a GDRP complaint in a country that will stop being an EU member state in less than a year, but I'm sure their lawyers know more than I do

I wonder if they're gambling that Brexit will implode?

Seems like a lot of people are. ;)

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This comes at the same time that Malwarebytes starts flagging Brave as malware[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/lukesawczak/status/1039854898068815873

Malwarebytes has had a few (seemingly) false positives lately. Anecdotally, I was just hit by it falsely flagging BeyondCompare and my password manager. I assume they have just upped the ante of their heuristics, but am still concerned about the fallout, since I am starting to ignore them. Not related, but considering that it does not scan except on demand, why is it ALWAYS running? Who vouches for Mr. Malwarebytes?

In June, I too had an auto-update from Beyond Compare failing due to Malwarebytes and it made me think their servers were compromised. Nope, false positive.

It looks like this happens often enough, there is a whole page dedicated to false positives.

https://www.scootersoftware.com/support.php?zz=kb_virus

Re: Brave files adtech complaint against Google

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"The GDPR is the first data privacy regime that foresees heavy fines for serious violations - of up to 4 percent of a company’s global turnover."

What would happen if a company decided that 4 percent of turnover is much cheaper than properly securing all of their data, and just chooses to pay the fine every year?

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They're so admirable that they take a 5% cut of your donations to sites you visit and replace ads with their own. Call me crazy, but in no future can I imagine anyone willingly paying their browser vendor for anything. Brave isn't the future, it's yet another cash grab. The real future is fully-decentralized websites, and it doesn't require new browsers. Edit: Fixed inaccuracy pointed out by Brave developer

> The real future is fully-decentralized websites, and it doesn't require new browsers. Let's say I want to run a forum. Something equivalent to, hmm, https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/ How do I do that as a decentralized website?

Some sort of "chain" of messages, hmmmm

A blockchain!

Re: Brave files adtech complaint against Google

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"The GDPR is the first data privacy regime that foresees heavy fines for serious violations - of up to 4 percent of a company’s global turnover." What would happen if a company decided that 4 percent of turnover is much cheaper than properly securing all of their data, and just chooses to pay the fine every year?

For a public company? Probably rapid replacement of the C-suite. Almost nobody has margins fat enough to put up with that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're so admirable that they take a 5% cut of your donations to sites you visit and replace ads with their own. Call me crazy, but in no future can I imagine anyone willingly paying their browser vendor for anything. Brave isn't the future, it's yet another cash grab. The real future is fully-decentralized websites, and it doesn't require new browsers. Edit: Fixed inaccuracy pointed out by Brave developer

> The real future is fully-decentralized websites, and it doesn't require new browsers. Let's say I want to run a forum. Something equivalent to, hmm, https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/ How do I do that as a decentralized website?

> How do I do that as a decentralized website?

Well, depends on what you mean by decentralized and whether you meant distributed instead. If your use case allows centralization that you control, just put it on your always-on home computer and expose it as an onion service over Tor. The more infrastructure requirements you have (e.g. HA, load balancing, backups, etc) the larger the burden of course.

Of course, if it must be distributed/decentralized using others' resources (beyond just disk space), this is not a very mature area and the app has to be written to take advantage of the limited options that do exist.

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"The GDPR is the first data privacy regime that foresees heavy fines for serious violations - of up to 4 percent of a company’s global turnover." What would happen if a company decided that 4 percent of turnover is much cheaper than properly securing all of their data, and just chooses to pay the fine every year?

Is it per year? Per month? Per a judge's choice? Anyone got a reference to where it's defined?

Re: Brave files adtech complaint against Google

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Seems like a strange choice to file a GDRP complaint in a country that will stop being an EU member state in less than a year, but I'm sure their lawyers know more than I do

The UK Government has said GDPR will continue to apply after Brexit, and passed the laws to make that the case.

http://www.blplaw.com/expert-legal-insights/articles/gdpr-an...

The official reason given being: "Over 70% of all trade in services are enabled by data flows, meaning that data protection is critical to international trade."

While Britain is on course to leave the EU (one specific body), it will continue to co-operate at a European (continent) level in all sorts of ways. Common data protection legislation being one example.

I'm curious though why Brave chose Britain and Ireland as the two places to complain. Maybe because English speaking?

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