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Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by TomMarius »

_Microft wrote: post #26
nik736 wrote: post #6

So that’s how equality looks like?

Nope, this is called affirmative action. Equality is a different thing and affirmative action is a possible way to try to reach more equality. Image it like Norway allowing electric cars on bus lanes. It's a way to reach a goal and can be phased out once you have gotten close enough.

That is a very, very different thing. I guess no electric vehicle will mind being told "ah, you're a woman, you had it so easy, you had everything given to you" after its lifelong work. Women will be hurt by this.

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by pas »

headsoup wrote: post #9

I get the intent here and applaud encouraging female participation and equality, but this is pretty much just discrimination based on sex.

There are thresholds and regimes for many things in life. And Stripe probably thinks that there are so few female founders, that to get to a healthy state of things they need to "affirmatively actionize" them.

I don't know if they are right or not, but it can be argued that to correct hundreds of years of negative discrimination you need some positive discrimination.

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by colordrops »

chejazi wrote: post #27

Looks like this post is angering some people so I will mention it looks like the promo is regardless of gender? Aside from the header "Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas." there is no suggestion that gender is a limiting factor for the discount.

What makes it "for female founders"?

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by matthewmacleod »

ddorian43 wrote: post #18
icelancer wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, nursing.

How are males helped with easier stuff on nursing compared to females ??

"Men offered a £3,000 sweetener to induce them to train as nurses" - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/18/men-offered-3000...

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by geomark »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #44
ddorian43 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are males helped with easier stuff on nursing compared to females ??

"Men offered a £3,000 sweetener to induce them to train as nurses" - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/18/men-offered-3000...

Ah, there's an offer. And it sounds pretty sweet. Then I went to the article and it says that it is a £30,000 fund. So that's enough for 10 male nurses :/

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by Lewton »

colordrops wrote: post #43
chejazi wrote: post #27

Looks like this post is angering some people so I will mention it looks like the promo is regardless of gender? Aside from the header "Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas." there is no suggestion that gender is a limiting factor for the discount.

What makes it "for female founders"?

zhangela's inability to read?

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by fiiv »

pas wrote: post #42
headsoup wrote: post #9

I get the intent here and applaud encouraging female participation and equality, but this is pretty much just discrimination based on sex.

There are thresholds and regimes for many things in life. And Stripe probably thinks that there are so few female founders, that to get to a healthy state of things they need to "affirmatively actionize" them. I don't know if they are right or not, but it can be argued that to correct hundreds of years of negative discrimination you need some positive discrimination.

Can discrimination be positive? It seems by design the very concept is negative.

Re: Stripe for female founders has invited you to join Stripe Atlas

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Post by close04 »

fiiv wrote: post #49
pas wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are thresholds and regimes for many things in life. And Stripe probably thinks that there are so few female founders, that to get to a healthy state of things they need to "affirmatively actionize" them. I don't know if they are right or not, but it can be argued that to correct hundreds of years of negative discrimination you need some positive discrimination.

Can discrimination be positive? It seems by design the very concept is negative.

Discrimination, just as the Latin word it derives from, is a process through which you distinguish between multiple groups or people. Just like to discern.

The way you choose to to the distinction might be unfair: you either put someone at a disadvantage, or give them an unfair advantage.

Most usage was focused on unfair disadvantage but it can be either really.

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