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Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead). Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse). It is better to avoid/reduce all refined fats (oils), except maybe for a high DHA omega 3 supplement. If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

Getting definitive information on nutrition always seems to be a lot harder than it should be in 2018

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Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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I remember when butter was bad for you and my dad, who was great butter lover switched to a particular type of margarine that was marketed as being good for you. Later it turned out it had the wrong sort of fats in it. Then later again butter became OK again.

AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead). Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse). It is better to avoid/reduce all refined fats (oils), except maybe for a high DHA omega 3 supplement. If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

WFPB, whole food plant based diet. No meat, no fish, no dairy. You can eat fruit but you can't juice it. Seems a bit of a misery diet to me.

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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Scientific American was pounding this drum in 2011. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t...

Interestingly I think I said this before but last year had my specialist renal dietician (I was on disalysis), comment that the anti salt campaign had been well marketed but they " didn't tell you what S^%^T they use to replace salt" in lo salt foods.

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead). Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse). It is better to avoid/reduce all refined fats (oils), except maybe for a high DHA omega 3 supplement. If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

Getting definitive information on nutrition always seems to be a lot harder than it should be in 2018

Then there was the 6 glasses of water a day that became dogma but had no basis.

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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During the heat wave in France this summer, messages to old persons were to drink regularly (which sometimes they forget) So a quarter of medical consultations related to elders and heat was for a lack of salt [0]. From Google translate it’s call hyponatremia. So as stated in other comments, moderation, may be, lack, bad idea. I’m actually in Ireland. They seem to have taken the salt part very seriously, as everythin…

Yep. I go on longer (60+ mile) bike rides once a week. Salt is so important on those rides, I get severe cramps without it. Especially when cycling on 100+ degree days.

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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And to play devil's advocate, the opposite findings from just this June https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180622012101.h...

The article isn’t that biased either way. And it looks like many commenters haven’t read the article.

My understanding from reading the article is the lower threshold is higher than we think. There are still negative effects at what we consider high levels of salt intake.

They also mention same team who did this study published a previous study that met a lot a criticism and they apparently failed to address the criticisms.

So you should probably moderate your salt intake still.

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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post #22

I remember when butter was bad for you and my dad, who was great butter lover switched to a particular type of margarine that was marketed as being good for you. Later it turned out it had the wrong sort of fats in it. Then later again butter became OK again.

AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead). Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse). It is better to avoid/reduce all refined fats (oils), except maybe for a high DHA omega 3 supplement. If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

How about between butter and sugar? Which is worse?

Re: Salt not as damaging to health as previously thought, says study

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post #28
post #22

I remember when butter was bad for you and my dad, who was great butter lover switched to a particular type of margarine that was marketed as being good for you. Later it turned out it had the wrong sort of fats in it. Then later again butter became OK again.

AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead). Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse). It is better to avoid/reduce all refined fats (oils), except maybe for a high DHA omega 3 supplement. If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

> AFAIK, butter is still worse then no butter (and more calories from whole plant foods instead).

Many would dispute this if you're alluding to it being heavy in saturated fat which there's heavy dispute over.

> Margarine may or may not be worse than butter (I think it is worse).

Doesn't seem consistent with your logic of less refined is better.

> If you want to eat for health, look into WFPB, they have a lot of science on their side.

So basically veganism. Pretty much a non-starter for most people.

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