I like how his cool confidence stands in contrast to Steve "I'm going to fucking kill Google" Ballmer's aggression. Notice how generous he is with compliments for Google's competitors.
Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
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Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#42On my first day of giving Bing a go (I used it for about two weeks to try to fairly assess) I ran into a problem: It can spellcheck words, but it cant get it right contextually. Let me give you an example: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+I+won+the+waer http://www.bing.com/search?q=how+I+won+the+waer I meant to type "how I won the war" and only Google picks up on this. "waer" alone into google instant will bring up…
Interesting. If you use Bing from Germany (with German UI), it works correctly, i.e. suggests "How I won the war".
Which makes sense, as "water" is not a German word...
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#43On my first day of giving Bing a go (I used it for about two weeks to try to fairly assess) I ran into a problem: It can spellcheck words, but it cant get it right contextually. Let me give you an example: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+I+won+the+waer http://www.bing.com/search?q=how+I+won+the+waer I meant to type "how I won the war" and only Google picks up on this. "waer" alone into google instant will bring up…
I tried a bunch of search engines the other day when I couldn't find something specific. Bing was the least useful: it generalized "dice" to "die" and then gave me lots of hits about death. It should have been fairly obvious that the articles returned had nothing to do with dice.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't anti-trust designed to prevent people from abusing their monopoly position? For example, Microsoft was the top OS vendor. They wanted to dominate the highly-lucrative Web Browser Vendor business. So, they forced everyone using their popular OS to use their web browser. The government thought this was an abuse of the monopoly, but the charges didn't stick. What Google's doing is nothing close to that, though. No…
I don't know about you, but to me Google is already pretty scary. Google has the power to completely destroy your business. They have little to no human communication, thus not allowing for any real follow-up, they're like this god, or black box. You have to hope and pray your begging will correct things. For example, lets assume you have a somewhat successful product, getting pretty good search results for your cate…
Walmart has similar power to destroy your business if they refuse to sell your product. Google has no obligation to help keep your business afloat in the same way Walmart doesn't owe your product a spot on its shelves.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
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> I never understood why people think they are positioned against FB.. Google and FB don't solve very many of the same problems They don't, but they share one common goal: Get money from advertisers, who are targeting people looking for some thing. This "some thing" is obvious on Google, its users are in buying mode even before entering the query term. Now, if (and that's a big if), FB can connect advertisers and buy…
If you think of advertising as "traditional advertising" and "internet advertising", then FB and Google are certainly rivals. However, in pure marketing terms, they are actually very different. Google search ads EXCEL in "Demand Fulfillment" - say you want need a plumber now since your toilet is overflowing. I don't think Facebook will ever beat Google here. Google sort of created this niche where they were better th…
I'm not sure your plumber example really works out. Facebook could hypothetically tell you that "Your friends X and Y used plumber's Z services, and liked it!", which is much more persuasive information than a generic ad.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't anti-trust designed to prevent people from abusing their monopoly position? For example, Microsoft was the top OS vendor. They wanted to dominate the highly-lucrative Web Browser Vendor business. So, they forced everyone using their popular OS to use their web browser. The government thought this was an abuse of the monopoly, but the charges didn't stick. What Google's doing is nothing close to that, though. No…
I don't know about you, but to me Google is already pretty scary. Google has the power to completely destroy your business. They have little to no human communication, thus not allowing for any real follow-up, they're like this god, or black box. You have to hope and pray your begging will correct things. For example, lets assume you have a somewhat successful product, getting pretty good search results for your cate…
You talk about Google as if it's some community resource you have a right to have; it's not. Google only has the power to destroy your business if you make your business model reliant upon them, that is a choice you make. There's nothing wrong with that choice, but you have to recognize it's your choice and Google owes you nothing at all.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about you, but to me Google is already pretty scary. Google has the power to completely destroy your business. They have little to no human communication, thus not allowing for any real follow-up, they're like this god, or black box. You have to hope and pray your begging will correct things. For example, lets assume you have a somewhat successful product, getting pretty good search results for your cate…
This doesn't bother me. If my website got delisted from Google, I'd find traffic in some other way. If my ads didn't get run by Google, I'd just advertise somewhere else. Honestly, Google is not that big of a company. I checked out the Fortune 500 list, and Google is not even in the top 50. Amazon.com, Bank of America, and CVS Carkemark know a lot more about you than Google. And they don't care -- you come to them, a…
Unlike the other companies mentioned there is very little alternative to Google. Especially if you target the technical demographic. If CVS does something bad, I can go to Rite Aid. However if Google delists you, your customers most likely won't go to Bing, or DuckDuckGo, you'll be dead. Furthermore, if you're not "relevant" to your search term, then advertising for that term will be prohibitively expensive. So you're screwed two ways.
I'm just saying their current status quo coupled with the power they have is scary. They should, like the banks, communicate with you. Even if it's not that detailed, a little bit of interaction goes a long way. They already have humans reading your reconsideration requests, they should allow them to issue a response, instead of just an automated reply. It shouldn't be this guessing game that we play. It's not OK that something that controls almost all of search is that inaccessible to communication, follow-up, and resolution.
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I don't know about you, but to me Google is already pretty scary. Google has the power to completely destroy your business. They have little to no human communication, thus not allowing for any real follow-up, they're like this god, or black box. You have to hope and pray your begging will correct things. For example, lets assume you have a somewhat successful product, getting pretty good search results for your cate…
You talk about Google as if it's some community resource you have a right to have; it's not. Google only has the power to destroy your business if you make your business model reliant upon them, that is a choice you make. There's nothing wrong with that choice, but you have to recognize it's your choice and Google owes you nothing at all.
As soon as you start having such a huge market share like Google does, whether you have a right to it is irrelevant. The fact is that they dominate, and have a defacto Monopoly in certain segments of our population. As such, there needs to be some standards and processes to for conflict resolution.
We shouldn't be ok with a company controlling almost all of search and not having any way to check them. There's a reason certain industries are now regulated, and why there are anti-competitive laws. Google and the web in general is still too new to have such regulation, but hopefully we're not too far away from it.
Again, I'd feel much better at night knowing there's a standard procedure with actual follow-up to explain and investigate search related issues, including delistings.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about you, but to me Google is already pretty scary. Google has the power to completely destroy your business. They have little to no human communication, thus not allowing for any real follow-up, they're like this god, or black box. You have to hope and pray your begging will correct things. For example, lets assume you have a somewhat successful product, getting pretty good search results for your cate…
Walmart has similar power to destroy your business if they refuse to sell your product. Google has no obligation to help keep your business afloat in the same way Walmart doesn't owe your product a spot on its shelves.
You can bet that if there wasn't Target, A&P, Pathmark, and local grocery stores, etc. Walmart wouldn't just be able to refuse selling your product without some sort of reason.
Google is significantly more dominant than Walmart, they're the only channel to your product for many, which isn't true with Walmart.
Re: Eric Schmidt: “Our competitor is Bing”
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You talk about Google as if it's some community resource you have a right to have; it's not. Google only has the power to destroy your business if you make your business model reliant upon them, that is a choice you make. There's nothing wrong with that choice, but you have to recognize it's your choice and Google owes you nothing at all.
As soon as you start having such a huge market share like Google does, whether you have a right to it is irrelevant. The fact is that they dominate, and have a defacto Monopoly in certain segments of our population. As such, there needs to be some standards and processes to for conflict resolution. We shouldn't be ok with a company controlling almost all of search and not having any way to check them. There's a reaso…
> The fact is that they dominate, and have a defacto Monopoly in certain segments of our population.
No, it's not a fact at all. Use Yahoo or Bing, as long as there are functional alternatives you can't claim there's a monopoly. Google dominates search, that's not the same thing as a monopoly. Google does not have a monopoly.
> As such, there needs to be some standards and processes to for conflict resolution.
No, there doesn't, you haven't established that they are a monopoly, or that they're promoting anti-competitive practices, or that search is even a vital service like electricity that should be regulated.
> There's a reason certain industries are now regulated, and why there are anti-competitive laws.
Yes, there are, for good reasons, no such reason exists to regulate search.
> Google and the web in general is still too new to have such regulation, but hopefully we're not too far away from it.
Hopefully we're very far away from it because it's absolutely not necessary and shouldn't happen.
> Again, I'd feel much better at night knowing there's a standard procedure with actual follow-up to explain and investigate search related issues, including delistings.
Then don't use Google, no one is forcing you to, you can get traffic from other places if you put effort into it. The fact is, you use Google because their product is superior and they bring you more traffic; that doesn't mean other options aren't available, just that they don't work as well as Google does. And for having a superior product, you want to punish them with regulation. That's seriously fucked up thinking.