Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.
Why is it even possible for an app to request your Facebook messages though?
Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages
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#42Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.
Why is it even possible for an app to request your Facebook messages though?
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2....
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#45yet Zuckerberg is testifying as I write, denying, dodging the responsibility and questions. I can't believe it, instead of laying down and confessing, he is trying to justify and blame everyone but Facebook.
He accepted blame for quite a bit, and apologized (as he usually does) The part I don't understand about all of this is that, yes somewhere along the line someone made the decision that giving developers access to that data was ok...but they REMOVED access to it as soon as they realized what sharing that data meant. That's how startups are trained to behave, shoot first ask questions later. They made a mistake and co…
(1) Make an ernest attempt to use ML, algorithms to identify their customers who are using those leaked datasets Facebook negligently exposed and help devalue the data, instead of eagerly selling them targeted advertising services? I don't know if they did this, but it sure seems doubtful.
(2) Quickly and openly disclose the extent of the leaked data
(3) Stop using manipulative and deliberately opaque TOS to enable ever more data collection
I'm not being sarcastic or insincere, this is my honest opinion of that they could have done. I am continually surprised at how many people making $$$ in ad-tech/PII data mining and brokering seem niave to the fact that this type of behavior would inevitably result in exponential growth of user outrage
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cambridge Analytica didn't pay to access this data. They got users to give it to them for free though Facebook's developer platform.
Thanks for the correction, I thought CA paid for access to the data the test collected.
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#47Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.
If a friend of yours authorized access to their messages, then the app would have access to your private messages with that friend.
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#48Facebook has already updated the numbers from from 47 million to 80 something million. This is going going to go bigger than Yahoo scale: "all accounts and all data" pretty quickly
The data accessed here was from a smaller unrelated research study. The only thing it has in common with the larger CA leak is that it was done by the same researcher.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
He accepted blame for quite a bit, and apologized (as he usually does) The part I don't understand about all of this is that, yes somewhere along the line someone made the decision that giving developers access to that data was ok...but they REMOVED access to it as soon as they realized what sharing that data meant. That's how startups are trained to behave, shoot first ask questions later. They made a mistake and co…
>what more is there to ask? (1) Make an ernest attempt to use ML, algorithms to identify their customers who are using those leaked datasets Facebook negligently exposed and help devalue the data, instead of eagerly selling them targeted advertising services? I don't know if they did this, but it sure seems doubtful. (2) Quickly and openly disclose the extent of the leaked data (3) Stop using manipulative and deliber…
How could they do that? The cat is out of the bag and FB aren't going to have any knowledge about where that data is now. Have there been reports of it getting out from CA?
> (2) Quickly and openly disclose the extent of the leaked data
I think some caution is a good idea, they don't want to get the numbers wrong - although they are making steps in the right direction with the message to 87 million on their news feeds.
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#50Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.
Why is it even possible for an app to request your Facebook messages though?