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India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by northwest66 »

adventured wrote: post #8
northwest66 wrote: post #6

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Pssst, I heard the last country to land people there laughable still hasn't even made it to the level of free health care for all! They still might, of course, it's not like any of these goals are mutually exclusive.

Free healthcare? That'd sure be amazing. Oh, you mean non-free healthcare provided by taxes, paid for by anyone earning an income and only actually free for anyone not earning an income. Anyone not earning an income in the US gets 'free' healthcare and has for decades. It's anything but free, it's very expensive. Just ask any developed nation with socialized healthcare just how free healthcare is, as they all univers…

I mean free as in if I chop my arm off, no worries, no bills, I get fixed up. I mean free as in my wife is pregnant, no worries, no bills, my baby is delivered in a hospital. I mean free as in my kids gets cancer, no worries, no bills, they get chemo or whatever they need. I mean never going into debt because I need my life saved. I mean never not going to the doctor because it'll ruin me. I mean everyone pays consumption tax here, nobody gets a free ride, and everyone gets looked after. I mean not looking down on another country because they're not perfect when your country isn't either.

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by agumonkey »

arthulia wrote: post #11
whack wrote: post #10

If space transportation costs were to fall dramatically, would there be any commercial value in traveling to the Moon, or building a base on the moon? The only one I can think of is Tourism. Are there any others, such as rare minerals perhaps?

The Moon has a fair bit of Helium-3. It sounds like that is partly what this mission is about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3#Extraction_from_extra...

I didn't know people were allowed to exploit the moon ..

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by qbrass »

amorphid wrote: post #36
classicsnoot wrote: post #32

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This is a fascinating thoughtsploration. Tourism on the moon will be a real version of the Jurassic Park narrative concept: Enterprising, wealthy, and somewhat eccentric genius opens space theme park, pushing the boundaries of the possible whilst simultaneously exposing your crew and visitors to near infinite risks because it has never been done before and is almost the definition of unnatural.

If resurrecting dinosaurs via ancient DNA could possibly be a thing (pretty sure it can't), I wonder how big dinosaurs could get on the moon. I believe gravity was the limiting factor in how big land based dinosaurs could get, so how big could get in Lunar Jurassic Park in ~1/6th Earth gravity.

Assuming mass scales linearly with volume, the cube root of 6 is 1.817ish

So moonisaurs would be roughly 82% larger if you just scaled them up until they weighed the same as they did on Earth.

It's a really sloppy estimate, but think more on the scale of twice their size on Earth than six times their size.

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by nojvek »

baddox wrote: post #24
TrueGeek wrote: post #23

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It just came out and is a great read. He goes into the issues of tourism, industry, and which countries will be driving efforts on the moon.

In the book, is the tourism is driven primarily by the inherent novelty and wonder of being on the moon, seeing Earth, experiencing the weaker gravity, etc., or is the draw primarily based on facilities that have been built there, like casinos, resorts, amusement parks, etc.? My guess is that you would need to have a lot of the latter, because while the former would be undoubtedly cool, I’m afraid the novelty would w…

Can't wait for humans to trash the moon with their plastic Cocacola bottles.

Also a manned mission to moon is a terrible use of Indian resources. Just send a one way robot and stay on the moon for years.

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Post by Roodgorf »

baddox wrote: post #39
amorphid wrote: post #36

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If resurrecting dinosaurs via ancient DNA could possibly be a thing (pretty sure it can't), I wonder how big dinosaurs could get on the moon. I believe gravity was the limiting factor in how big land based dinosaurs could get, so how big could get in Lunar Jurassic Park in ~1/6th Earth gravity.

The low gravity is probably what I would have the most fun with. I can imagine all sorts of activities could get a lot more fun. I could learn to do a standing backflip, or even manage to finally break 400lb on my deadlift. :)

Wouldn't trying to deadlift more than 400 pounds be the same amount of effort on the moon? Granted, it would have to be that much more massive, so it would certainly LOOK more impressive.

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by throwaway-hn123 »

adventured wrote: post #8
northwest66 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pssst, I heard the last country to land people there laughable still hasn't even made it to the level of free health care for all! They still might, of course, it's not like any of these goals are mutually exclusive.

Free healthcare? That'd sure be amazing. Oh, you mean non-free healthcare provided by taxes, paid for by anyone earning an income and only actually free for anyone not earning an income. Anyone not earning an income in the US gets 'free' healthcare and has for decades. It's anything but free, it's very expensive. Just ask any developed nation with socialized healthcare just how free healthcare is, as they all univers…

fuck me you are a dumb cunt. Check how much healthcare costs in the United States of Cunts and compare it the other places. Then check the health outcomes. You dumb fucking loser.

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by throwaway-hn123 »

lamarpye wrote: post #20
tigershark wrote: post #17

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You can say that it's practically free given how much US spend for a non-free healthcare vs how much countries with universal healthcare spend.

It helps when another nation pays for your defense, frees up money for other things.

Shoot yourself and do the human race a favour.

Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history

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Post by qbrass »

Roodgorf wrote: post #45
baddox wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The low gravity is probably what I would have the most fun with. I can imagine all sorts of activities could get a lot more fun. I could learn to do a standing backflip, or even manage to finally break 400lb on my deadlift. :)

Wouldn't trying to deadlift more than 400 pounds be the same amount of effort on the moon? Granted, it would have to be that much more massive, so it would certainly LOOK more impressive.

Picking it up is the only part that gets easier.
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