Not that there are many here that believe that NASA faked the moon landings, but if you are, I've got to say: I'd have thought that Bollywood would have landed them on the moon at least a decade ago.
India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
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Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It just came out and is a great read. He goes into the issues of tourism, industry, and which countries will be driving efforts on the moon.
In the book, is the tourism is driven primarily by the inherent novelty and wonder of being on the moon, seeing Earth, experiencing the weaker gravity, etc., or is the draw primarily based on facilities that have been built there, like casinos, resorts, amusement parks, etc.? My guess is that you would need to have a lot of the latter, because while the former would be undoubtedly cool, I’m afraid the novelty would w…
This is a fascinating thoughtsploration. Tourism on the moon will be a real version of the Jurassic Park narrative concept:
Enterprising, wealthy, and somewhat eccentric genius opens space theme park, pushing the boundaries of the possible whilst simultaneously exposing your crew and visitors to near infinite risks because it has never been done before and is almost the definition of unnatural.
Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#33Maybe provide basic supply with fresh water for the whole country first. But yeah, whatever.
The cost of this mission is 93 million dollars. If you can come up with a plan to provide basic supply with fresh water for the entire country for 93 million dollars I'm sure the Indian government will be greatly interested in your services. Heck you may even be offered a billion dollars to solve this problem. Maybe then you'll realise the logistical nightmare of getting supply of fresh water to 1.25 billion people.
If you do not understand the dynamics of how developing countries function it's best you not comment. The same "poor people" for whom you feel sad for (in another comment you posted below) sport a smartphone in their pockets. This is the irony of living in a developing country. Technology advances faster and ends up becoming cheaper than building last mile connectivity and basic services. Infrastructure building is always slower and more expensive than tech adoption.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free healthcare? That'd sure be amazing. Oh, you mean non-free healthcare provided by taxes, paid for by anyone earning an income and only actually free for anyone not earning an income. Anyone not earning an income in the US gets 'free' healthcare and has for decades. It's anything but free, it's very expensive. Just ask any developed nation with socialized healthcare just how free healthcare is, as they all univers…
> Anyone not earning an income in the US gets 'free' healthcare and has for decades. It's anything but free, it's very expensive. My impression was that the only way it's "free" is if you walk into an emergency room with no money. And the fact that uninsured people can only go to emergency rooms (routine issues fester and become serious) is in part what drives up the cost. In places like Canada the wait times are atr…
You make some very good points.
I think people use the term "free" in the same way that the term "free" tricks people into spending more than they would have otherwise. Calling it "free" let's you mentally sidestep the details.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
It helps when another nation pays for your defense, frees up money for other things.
I can't understand your comment. Regardless of military expenses a lot of countries with universal healthcare spend less per capita than US where is not universal. Can you please explain me how military expenses affect the amount of money spent in healthcare?
Just for reference, the biggest (med-high, annually recurring) expenditures of Westernized Democracies tend to be social welfare (penchants and such), agrarian supply chain, healthcare, and security/defense. Water figures heavily depending on geography. The unifying factor is the need for continuing, consistent investment just to maintain, non inclusive of repair, renovation, or improvement. This is why these things are so expensive.
The European Bloc has benefitted from defense/security being bolstered by US equipment/investment since the Marshall Plan. I believe this is what the other poster was referencing.
Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the book, is the tourism is driven primarily by the inherent novelty and wonder of being on the moon, seeing Earth, experiencing the weaker gravity, etc., or is the draw primarily based on facilities that have been built there, like casinos, resorts, amusement parks, etc.? My guess is that you would need to have a lot of the latter, because while the former would be undoubtedly cool, I’m afraid the novelty would w…
This is a fascinating thoughtsploration. Tourism on the moon will be a real version of the Jurassic Park narrative concept: Enterprising, wealthy, and somewhat eccentric genius opens space theme park, pushing the boundaries of the possible whilst simultaneously exposing your crew and visitors to near infinite risks because it has never been done before and is almost the definition of unnatural.
If resurrecting dinosaurs via ancient DNA could possibly be a thing (pretty sure it can't), I wonder how big dinosaurs could get on the moon. I believe gravity was the limiting factor in how big land based dinosaurs could get, so how big could get in Lunar Jurassic Park in ~1/6th Earth gravity.
Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#37Maybe provide basic supply with fresh water for the whole country first. But yeah, whatever.
Countries don't generally operate on the myopic principle of addressing issues one at a time.
When America first began the Apollo program, it was almost a full decade before the United States addressed a lot of the racial issues that have plagued it since its inception.
By many measures, such as access to healthcare, incarceration rates, and even basic literacy, the United States still has severe equality issues. If the United States was operating according to this principle, they would still be waiting to send anyone to space. I'd be happily surprised if there was actually any country that had fully conquered this issue.
Point being that every country, all the way up to the largest economy in the world, has unresolved issues. Issues which are fundamental to human rights and equality.
Is your umbrage with India specifically, or are you promoting the idea of singular focus as a global concept? If the latter, I'd be interested (genuinely!) in seeing your reasoning and evidence. If the former, I'd encourage you to reflect on what you are saying, and discover why you are (I assume, and hope, inadvertently) applying your criticism in a discriminatory manner
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#38http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137359/Boy-18-inv... is more interesting from India today
Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a fascinating thoughtsploration. Tourism on the moon will be a real version of the Jurassic Park narrative concept: Enterprising, wealthy, and somewhat eccentric genius opens space theme park, pushing the boundaries of the possible whilst simultaneously exposing your crew and visitors to near infinite risks because it has never been done before and is almost the definition of unnatural.
If resurrecting dinosaurs via ancient DNA could possibly be a thing (pretty sure it can't), I wonder how big dinosaurs could get on the moon. I believe gravity was the limiting factor in how big land based dinosaurs could get, so how big could get in Lunar Jurassic Park in ~1/6th Earth gravity.
The low gravity is probably what I would have the most fun with. I can imagine all sorts of activities could get a lot more fun. I could learn to do a standing backflip, or even manage to finally break 400lb on my deadlift. :)
Re: India is preparing to land on moon for the first time in the country's history
#40Not that there are many here that believe that NASA faked the moon landings, but if you are, I've got to say: I'd have thought that Bollywood would have landed them on the moon at least a decade ago.
Google for "frogs in a pond story"