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Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

#41
My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry.

Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in but generally worse.

The current job boards / job aggregators (the companies above) are terribly unimaginative, generally not helpful and often price gouge companies (if you wondering the what the difference is between aggregator and job board... there really isn't much but one pulls the jobs aka crawls the web for them).

Now the boards/aggregators are trying to become more service based and offer higher value offerings for long term strategic reasons. Indeed is rolling out "Indeed Prime" and I believe Career Builder is offering something similar as well.

So as creepy as it is that Google is in the recruiting space I am optimistic that will finally provide some spark of innovation that is much needed in a very high touch industry devoid of it.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #19

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

Isn't the replacement for Android right now iOS? Still proprietary but Apple seems to take a much tougher stance on privacy.

It seems more a marketing strategy than a real belief in user privacy. For example, see the latest rejection of ad-blocking VPN apps from the App Store https://9to5mac.com/2017/07/15/apple-reportedly-shifts-app-s...

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

#43

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

They've gotten to big for their breeches. If you're tech, try to mitigate a bit by using services from other companies.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

#44

A question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours…

Not just trading, but I wonder if they could take other actions based on that. For example, if your company uses Google Apps, they may not be able to read your individual email but where does it say they can't use aggregate data to figure out if you're up to something?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

#45

A question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours…

I don't think it would be illegal due to insider trading laws; there are plenty of finance companies that seek non-public information to trade on, as long as it didn't come from someone with a requirement to safeguard that (i.e. an insider), it seems to be fine.

It would probably be illegal for an employee to do this though without Google's consent; wasn't there a case of a few Chase(?) employees trading on credit card data and being fired and prosecuted?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

It is certainly annoying with how they try and nudge other products away in subtle ways. Like like Firefox on Android, works really well. However on Google's search, they give you a stripped down version of their search results inferior to what Chrome gets. Use an addon like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-ua-on-... And you find out that Firefox has no problem rendering the full featured c…

I use DuckDuckGo as I said, but you can easily switch the default search StartPage; which shouldn't give you stripped down search results.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #34

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

You should read about the founder of DuckDuckGo

For the lazy: --- 2008: DuckDuckGo was founded[15] by Gabriel Weinberg,[16][17] an entrepreneur whose previous venture, The Names Database, was acquired by United Online in 2006 for $10 million.

This is most relevant snippet I could find about DDG's founder.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couple that with the fact that they do not offer anything that deserves the moniker "customer service".

If you pay them you get good customer service. Google Play, YouTube Red, Chromecast, Chromebook, Nexus, all have pretty good service.

Google Fi as well

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #34

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

You should read about the founder of DuckDuckGo

So I found this[0] but haven't read it yet. Was there something we should be looking for?

[0] - https://www.eyerys.com/articles/people/search-engine-and-pri...

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I wonder why I don't see candidates jumping up from joy when they hear about it ?

Don't you want to be conveniently tracked, compared, analyzed and disposed of with a couple of clicks ? Don't you want your professional profile to be sold to the highest bidder some time in the future ?

I mean, I'm sure the software brings order and ease to the hiring process, but somehow this doesn't make me feel good. It makes me nauseous ... from how insignificant and mechanical this makes us.. people treating people like data...

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