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OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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It might make sense behind the scenes, but was it a mistake for them to actually tell their users about it? They must have known the uglies would find out about it, so you've gotta balance out the fact that you've just flattered some of your users with the fact that you've insulted the rest. Besides, ugly users are probably a lot more profitable than good-looking ones.

Cutting the userbase sharply in half, with ugly on one side and attractive on the other, is probably a bad way for them to explain it to people. They'd be better off saying something like "we show you other users based on how much you have in common, including age, interests, attractiveness, personality, etc."

True, but they already say that. I don't think that they stop showing you 'ugly' people, they just shift the distribution. In any case, the bottom 50% of users are probably cluttered with abandoned profiles, joke profiles, people with serious personality defects that can't get a date, et cetera. If you're an active serious user, you probably only have to be in the to 70-90% of active serious users to meet the criteria.

We know they run statistics all the time from their blog, so they probably saw something like 90% of active users are in the top 50% and saw it as a way to flatter them and keep them engaged with the site.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

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Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. People are also much more likely to date someone of their own race. Should OkCupid segregate by race as well? Oh wait, that's a social taboo, whereas discriminating against the ugly is considered perfectly acceptable.

If the methods by which they measure attractiveness overlap with the methods by which they measure racial bias (covered in one of their blog posts), then they could very well be implying (whether they mean to or not) that attractiveness is correlated with race.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

Hell, I would like if OKCupid let me know my percentile. If I thought I had a hot shit profile that actually rather sucks (by real user analytics feedback), it would benefit me to know.

[edit] People are taking this far too personally. You didn't get rejected as unattractive, your profile got rejected as unattractive. There are more ways than one to rectify this. Remember, these people don't know you, they can only view a tiny slice of you via your profile - one that you are in 100% control of. Perhaps your failure is not that you're irredeemably ugly, but rather that your profile inspires no attraction. Conversely, if you "won" the profile attractiveness game, it may not mean you're nearly as attractive in real life as your profile suggests.

This reminds of the PUA mantra as it has been related to me: "she didn't reject you, she rejected your approach"

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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At first I was like, "wow, that's offensive." But then I was like, "damn, how come I didn't get that email too?"

Why is it offensive? Long-term relationships report the highest happiness levels when both partners are of roughly equal attractiveness.

Shit, I'm so screwed.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I know what the problem is... After seeing some of the pictures of the people who got that letter, I'm pretty convinced they gave it to the bottom half.

That would be... interesting . Are these pictures public?

There were a bunch of people posting about it in the forums when this first happened.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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If I were running that site I would be interested in sending that email to a randomly-selected half the userbase and then seeing if and how they behaved differently on the site. After all, the letter says both that you, personally, are more attractive, but also acts as kind of guarantee that the people you are being matched with are more attractive too. There may be some ethical considerations here of course.

This sounds like something that they'd do. Those guys are serious math nerds. > There may be some ethical considerations here of course. Reading OkTrends, I'm pretty sure they're not worried about it.

Not that they don't have standards--I'm sure they're very careful not to release anything that would reveal private information about specific, identifiable users.

Other than that, yeah. Those guys pretty much do statistics for the lulz. I would not be surprised at all if wzdd turns out to have been correct...

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like something that they'd do. Those guys are serious math nerds. > There may be some ethical considerations here of course. Reading OkTrends, I'm pretty sure they're not worried about it.

Not that they don't have standards--I'm sure they're very careful not to release anything that would reveal private information about specific, identifiable users. Other than that, yeah. Those guys pretty much do statistics for the lulz. I would not be surprised at all if wzdd turns out to have been correct...

Since I didn't get one of these letters, I'm pretty sure he is. ;)

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

Hell, I would like if OKCupid let me know my percentile. If I thought I had a hot shit profile that actually rather sucks (by real user analytics feedback), it would benefit me to know. [edit] People are taking this far too personally. You didn't get rejected as unattractive, your profile got rejected as unattractive. There are more ways than one to rectify this. Remember, these people don't know you, they can only v…

> If I thought I had a hot shit profile that actually rather sucks (by real user analytics feedback), it would benefit me to know.

The "YourBestFace" feature would help you with that.

Most interesting thing I found out? Pictures with my grandma: awesome. Pictures with my grandfather: horrible.

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