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OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

It might make sense behind the scenes, but was it a mistake for them to actually tell their users about it? They must have known the uglies would find out about it, so you've gotta balance out the fact that you've just flattered some of your users with the fact that you've insulted the rest.

Besides, ugly users are probably a lot more profitable than good-looking ones.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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At first I was like, "wow, that's offensive." But then I was like, "damn, how come I didn't get that email too?"

Why is it offensive? Long-term relationships report the highest happiness levels when both partners are of roughly equal attractiveness.

But I rate myself above average in every category! Just like everyone else!

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Isn't this an obvious marketing angle designed to get people to come to the site more often? Somehow I doubt they are really giving people less matches based on this. Anyway, assuming an even distribution of matches, matching "ugly" top "ugly" and "attractive" to "attractive" will result in an even match distribution.

I would assume that men are disproportionately more unattractive than women meaning e.g. the 20% of "hot" men get their pick of 80% of women who are "hot". Just like in real life. goes reads mystery method

If you live somewhere where 80% of women are hot, I want to move there.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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The policy discriminates against those deemed less attractive for whatever reason (bad photo, profile misspelling, etc.).

Heaven forbid people are rewarded for being liked! Shouldn't a bad photo or a misspelling count against you?

The policy reinforces the notion that hot people deserve love and happiness and "ugly" people should just get used to being alone.

What does attractiveness mean if not that people like to look at you more? It would be weird for a dating site not to respond to this dynamic.

...we've all got different preferences when it comes to physical attractiveness, and just because someone hasn't gotten as many click-thrus as someone else doesn't mean that users won't find that person attractive.

Interesting. I wonder if HotOrNot can tell you what the correlation among user ratings is (i.e. whether an 8 is more likely to be seen as an 8 or a 2). I would be pretty surprised if the 8's were just as likely to be seen as 2's by a random viewer.

OkCupid is segregating the groups, which seems counter-productive to, you know, DATING.

Really? If you're in a dating mood, you don't look for specific kinds of people? I doubt this. If you're actively looking for mates, you'll still write off >90% of the people you see on a daily basis (count how many people you walk past who are within 10 years of your age, a member of the sex you're attracted to, and not--by your guess--currently romantically attached).

I used to think that the problem with calling prejudice "discrimination" was that it rid us of a serviceable word. But it's worse than that: now, we're rid of a serviceable concept, too. Suddenly, discrimination--making judgments about how things differ--is also a problem.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Isn't this an obvious marketing angle designed to get people to come to the site more often? Somehow I doubt they are really giving people less matches based on this. Anyway, assuming an even distribution of matches, matching "ugly" top "ugly" and "attractive" to "attractive" will result in an even match distribution.

I would assume that men are disproportionately more unattractive than women meaning e.g. the 20% of "hot" men get their pick of 80% of women who are "hot". Just like in real life. goes reads mystery method

OkCupid has an extremely interesting blog ( http://blog.okcupid.com/ ), in which they had some statistics on this, but only for women sadly.

(http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2010/02/16/the-case-for-an... )

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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This post doesn't make sense. It specifically says that this doesn't affect match percentages which is the primary way that the site matches people. It is just taking into account that the people who are the most conventionally attractive tend to stick together. The biggest problem I have with dating sites is that I have to go through hundreds of profiles to find someone who I like that also might like me. IMO, the smarter the matching, the better it is for everyone.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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At first I was like, "wow, that's offensive." But then I was like, "damn, how come I didn't get that email too?"

wow, that's offensive

I think this is a welcome to the future moment: more and more we're going to be seeing consequential evidence-based judgments being made on people by computers. They're going to be called unfair. And they're going to work really, really, really well at optimizing for the desired goals.

It will be like credit scores. "Its not fair, I was only late that one time!" "Its not fair, I needed surgery!" "Its not fair, I am basically a good person!" Credit scores ROFLstomp all over human judgement as a predictor of default risk for many, many classes of debt.

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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post #12
post #4

I'm not quite sure what the problem is. OkCupid's goal is to help its users find dates. People rarely date someone who's very significantly more or less attractive than they are. Directing people to users with whom they're much likelier to find success actually seems quite sensible, not "less than OK".

It might make sense behind the scenes, but was it a mistake for them to actually tell their users about it? They must have known the uglies would find out about it, so you've gotta balance out the fact that you've just flattered some of your users with the fact that you've insulted the rest. Besides, ugly users are probably a lot more profitable than good-looking ones.

As you might have noticed from OKCupid's copious release of cross-racial dating data, and similar "Skipping through a minefield" marketing activities, I think they've decided "You know, dating is crowded. Better to be loved by many and hated passionately by a few than to be unknown by all and crushed by Match.com's nine figure AdWords spend."

Re: OkCupid has less-than-OK policies. Especially if you're "ugly."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would assume that men are disproportionately more unattractive than women meaning e.g. the 20% of "hot" men get their pick of 80% of women who are "hot". Just like in real life. goes reads mystery method

If you live somewhere where 80% of women are hot, I want to move there.

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