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Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Is Angular ever going to support web standards such as web components?

You can already use most simple web components in Angular without issues - as far as Angular is concerned, it's just another DOM element.

We also support native (or emulated) Shadow DOM out of the box.

It gets a little more interesting when you start interleaving Angular and WebComponents, but one of the deprecations in 4.0 (regarding Angular's use of the tag) is squarely aimed at making that easier in the future.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Even with SemVer versions it looks really weird to see a new Angular relase branded as 4.0.0. Angular 1 to Angular 2 made me drop angular entirely, that happened less than 6 months ago I believe. Just reading Angular 4 gives me the creeps. Is 4 widely different from 2? How am I suppose to know if you using semver and already have a really bad history?

I've been testing out 4 since it hit beta, and haven't had any issues. Code literally just works after updating to the new version with 0 issues, in my case at least.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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I'm actually really excited about Angular "2+" for something you've expressed here. I know that a React developer won't see this the same way, but I really feel like it's come down (for me at least) to either Angular "2+" or React - and whatever the reason someone is going to be on one side of the fence or the other. I've written smallish to largish programs in Vue, React, Ember, Polymer - and in all of those cases t…

Didn't GWT provide you with type checking on the frontend 10 years back ? Still works, incidentally.

Yep, I realized and regretted saying that after I posted that - there certainly are typed languages on the front end, but at some point or another they are all very disconnected from Javascript itself. I feel with Typescript you get both a user-configurable level of type checking combined with the cowboy coder flexibility of Javascript - I guess that's what I was aiming to say. Whether that's a good thing to others is up to them however. ;)

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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If my experience is any indication of general industry practices, businesses are very risk averse when it comes to upgrading libraries or dependencies as it usually triggers costly regression testing. At my current gig, we still run on angular 1.3.something and there is no way the business will allow us to migrate to v2 as we struggle to justify exactly what added value will we get from essentially a top-down rewrite…

> there is no way the business will allow us to migrate to v2 We as engineers should not accept this. Business should not be involved in technical decisions like library upgrades. Business and engineering should negotiation development scheduling, nothing more. This means what new features are worked on, what bugs are prioritized, etc. All remaining time should be up to engineering's discretion. And if business has y…

I dont't disagree with you, but after some years in the industry I noticed certain patterns in how businesses operate: as they get larger and stable they get more risk averse and more in love with legacy systems. But I never worked for Google or the likes, so maybe somewhere out there, the grass is greener :)
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