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Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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There are few things that bothers me when people talk about Google taking the lead: 1) They are comparing two different things, an open OS vs an OS tied to one company. 2) Google didn't surpassed anybody. FroYo hasn't been released yet and they are comparing them to a phone that is going to be updated in two weeks. FroYo has tethering, but iPhone has tethering since 3.0, if AT&T doesn't allow it, it isn't Apple's fau…

It is available in Nexus One http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/22/android-froyo-nexus-one/

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

#42

There are few things that bothers me when people talk about Google taking the lead: 1) They are comparing two different things, an open OS vs an OS tied to one company. 2) Google didn't surpassed anybody. FroYo hasn't been released yet and they are comparing them to a phone that is going to be updated in two weeks. FroYo has tethering, but iPhone has tethering since 3.0, if AT&T doesn't allow it, it isn't Apple's fau…

Maybe it's just me, but I like to compare shipped products, not demos and announcements.

This is it right here. What can I buy? What is reality? Talk is cheap.

Its way better to talk about what you've done (even if it was a while ago) than to talk about what you will (never) do.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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>There can be no claims of leapfrogging until I can use an android device's touch screen to SMS someone without pulling (what little is left of) my hair out. This is almost certainly what you are used to. I haven't had any difficulty with my nexus one. The iphone drove me to insanity everytime I tried to type on it. >Every single android handset I've used has felt like a cheap, disposable piece of junk (G1, Hero, N1)…

It's kind of funny - people seem to be fairly split down the middle between our posts, even with all the up and down voting. What I was used to before I got the G1 was a Samsung Trace, which could not be considered any sort of "smart phone". No Qwerty keyboard, tiny screen, etc. I did not actually use the original iPhone until about a year ago when a friend gave me an unlocked 2G when she got a 3GS. I don't know much…

The biggest advantage Android has in this area is that Google doesn't have to get it "right" for everyone. On Android phones you can just switch to one of the other keyboard implementations if you don't like the default.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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The whole leapfrogging thing implies (to me) that you are not only doing more things than someone, but also doing them better. Yes, FroYo has added a ton of great features to android, however I still feel that Apple has not yet been leapfrogged in the most basic parts of design for core parts today's mobile experience. The most obvious of these to me is text entry via touch screen. There can be no claims of leapfrogg…

> Every single android handset I've used has felt like a cheap, disposable piece of junk (G1, Hero, N1) or a giant tank (Droid)

I own an iPhone 3GS as well as a Nexus One. I prefer the N1 and a lot of it comes down to the fact that the iPhone feels like a bar of soap in my hand just waiting to take a flying jump towards the ground. It's a slippery thing.

That single thing was enough for me to use the N1 more, and now I find the iPhone hard to use (in the same way that once I stopped using Nokia years ago I couldn't go back to it).

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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It's kind of funny - people seem to be fairly split down the middle between our posts, even with all the up and down voting. What I was used to before I got the G1 was a Samsung Trace, which could not be considered any sort of "smart phone". No Qwerty keyboard, tiny screen, etc. I did not actually use the original iPhone until about a year ago when a friend gave me an unlocked 2G when she got a 3GS. I don't know much…

The biggest advantage Android has in this area is that Google doesn't have to get it "right" for everyone. On Android phones you can just switch to one of the other keyboard implementations if you don't like the default.

recommendations? and not swype please.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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The biggest advantage Android has in this area is that Google doesn't have to get it "right" for everyone. On Android phones you can just switch to one of the other keyboard implementations if you don't like the default.

recommendations? and not swype please.

Smart Keyboard Pro: text expansion, custom dictionaries, custom skins, and more. I'm not the developer even if I sound like a walking advertisement, I just love the app that much.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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The biggest advantage Android has in this area is that Google doesn't have to get it "right" for everyone. On Android phones you can just switch to one of the other keyboard implementations if you don't like the default.

recommendations? and not swype please.

Shapewriter seems to be recommended alot, but I've only played with different keyboards a bit on my wife's Hero.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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The only Android phone that initially will have that functionality won't be available with AT&T nor T-Mobile... And the Nexus One isn't a pentaband phone either.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll be able to flash froyo to my nexus one, correct? And the nexus one is available on at&t. Ergo, I will be able to tether my phone on at&t. Right?

Why do you think AT&T would let Nexus One tether before the iPhone?

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll be able to flash froyo to my nexus one, correct? And the nexus one is available on at&t. Ergo, I will be able to tether my phone on at&t. Right?

Why do you think AT&T would let Nexus One tether before the iPhone?

How would they be able to stop me?
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