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What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by codys »

milankragujevic wrote: post #35
sushid wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's simply untrue. You can download a copy of Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft. [0] It's the first search result if you Google Windows 10 ISO. Plus, most laptops don't come with a recovery USB (neither do Macs) and IMO having a recovery partition is silly when installing it from scratch is cleaner/easier. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Maybe on windows 7 or 8/8.1, but on 10 I see no download, how can I download an ISO without downloading a program? Plus let's say I have a metered connection (that I often do, when I'm away from home) and my windows 10 broke by itself as it often does? I can't go to a library or something and download the iso because I don't have admin permissions and microsoft's tool requires admin permissions. I'm not trying to cri…

If you browse from windows, that page only shows Microsoft's special "Download Program".

If you browse from linux, it shows links to directly download the ISO files.

I'm not sure what it does if you browse from MacOS.

Maybe try changing your browser's useragent? Frankly, it is a bit annoying that Microsoft tries to push their download tool.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by paulkafasis »

dirtae wrote: post #36
BoorishBears wrote: post #3

*What happens when you pull a well established app with an extremely well established (and very tech savvy) user base from the macOS App Store in a public fashion.

Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

That is quite correct. When we removed Piezo from the Mac App Store a year ago, we didn't send out a press release, nor seek publicity over this move in any way. We simply removed it and explained why on our blog (https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-...). That was it.

We can certainly debate how well-established or tech-savvy our users are (though I will note that Piezo is by far our simplest application, and used by the least technically savvy among our user base). But to say that we did this in a “public fashion” is just false.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by cortesoft »

spott wrote: post #4

The value-add of the mac store is just not very good anymore. There are only three reasons people might buy something from the mac store vs. from the developer directly: 1. To keep it getting updates through the app store vs. having to download from the developer when a new update comes out. 2. They found it in the mac store, and thus purchased it in the mac store. 3. They trust apple to reduce the risk of malware wh…

There are a few others:

Not having to enter payment information again.

Not having to trust a new third party with your payment information.

Trusted refund support.

Apple makes it seem scary to install software outside the app store.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by milankragujevic »

wire9 wrote: post #38
milankragujevic wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe on windows 7 or 8/8.1, but on 10 I see no download, how can I download an ISO without downloading a program? Plus let's say I have a metered connection (that I often do, when I'm away from home) and my windows 10 broke by itself as it often does? I can't go to a library or something and download the iso because I don't have admin permissions and microsoft's tool requires admin permissions. I'm not trying to cri…

Huh? Select Home/Pro. Select language. Download button appears for both 32/64 bit. No special software, just a download link.

http://imgur.com/bcj3z57

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by wire9 »

milankragujevic wrote: post #44
wire9 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Select Home/Pro. Select language. Download button appears for both 32/64 bit. No special software, just a download link.

http://imgur.com/bcj3z57

Does 'More download options' reveal more options?

http://i.imgur.com/s4ElZFt.png

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by i336_ »

To mods: I flagged this to bring attention to the clickbait title: this is NOT referring to iOS.

The post title here is the same as the article title but I would still recommend changing it, even if just to "macOS App Store".

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by api »

awalton wrote: post #28

I wonder if articles like this will hasten non-app-store-apps' demise. Apple has already appeared to be quite itchy to lock down everything and weld the hood shut, throwing vendor kexts out of the kernel left and right and introducing ChromeOS-like OS verification steps, making users jump through several hoops to run downloaded executables... Apple's going to eventually want to stem the outgoing tide before too many…

If/when they do this, I'm gone from OSX.

This can fly on mobile because ultimately mobile devices are just dumb terms for accessing the cloud. I don't think it'll fly on real computers, especially for the pro market and developers.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by r00fus »

cortesoft wrote: post #40
sigjuice wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202152 seems to imply that there is no such limit. Can I use apps from the Mac App Store on more than one computer? Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.

You can only have 10 devices (and only 5 of them computers) associated to a single Apple ID: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204074

Can you get around that using family share?

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by lukeholder »

ThomPete wrote: post #22
huangc10 wrote: post #14

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It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.

That icon means 'app' not app store.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by flukus »

wire9 wrote: post #45
milankragujevic wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://imgur.com/bcj3z57

Does 'More download options' reveal more options? http://i.imgur.com/s4ElZFt.png

Nothing relevant:

>Sign in to the Volume Licensing Service Center to download Enterprise editions.

>Sign in to your subscription on the MSDN Portal for MSDN downloads.

> Visit the Windows Insider site to download Insider Preview builds

> Visit the Download Academic Products page for Education editions (product key required).

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