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Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

huangc10 wrote: post #14
ThomPete wrote: post #9

I pulled my mac app http://www.ghostnoteapp.com from the appstore back in '15 only 5 months after launching it and haven't looked back since. It's still a pretty profitable app for me and I actually enjoy the freedom of not having to have it go through review process. For most mac apps people are googling rather than browsing the app store anyway.

It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

smart to use the snapchat logo as well. that way when apple sues, you can argue that you steal all your logos.

you're all idiots.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by ThomPete »

huangc10 wrote: post #14
ThomPete wrote: post #9

I pulled my mac app http://www.ghostnoteapp.com from the appstore back in '15 only 5 months after launching it and haven't looked back since. It's still a pretty profitable app for me and I actually enjoy the freedom of not having to have it go through review process. For most mac apps people are googling rather than browsing the app store anyway.

It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

Interesting never thought about it like that.

To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#...

But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by ThomPete »

charlesdm wrote: post #17
ThomPete wrote: post #9

I pulled my mac app http://www.ghostnoteapp.com from the appstore back in '15 only 5 months after launching it and haven't looked back since. It's still a pretty profitable app for me and I actually enjoy the freedom of not having to have it go through review process. For most mac apps people are googling rather than browsing the app store anyway.

App review takes a day now. Was it really that much of a hassle to you?

It often took a week and yes it was a hassle also because of all the restrictions they put on what you are allowed to do.

I know they have improved a little but I frankly don't need them as the Mac appstore market is nothing like the iOS appstore market. There is no benefit really.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by ams6110 »

milankragujevic wrote: post #15
hkmurakami wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I buy my adobe software via Amazon for this exact reason. Meanwhile, I can't figure out how I can install Office 2011 on my new machine even though I have the key since MSFT doesn't even let me download the .dmg from their site anymore.

I like how even thought I got windows 10 home with my laptop I can't install it from anywhere because the laptop didn't come with a recovery USB and the recovery partition got corrupted so basically I have to rely on downloading so-called "MSDN" images from torrents and hope for the best, verifying the hashes along the way...

This is a hidden cost of non-open software.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by huangc10 »

ThomPete wrote: post #22
huangc10 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.

Nah man, you got a nice looking button there. I'd stick with it unless you get a warning from Apple. Keep up the good work!

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by jedberg »

cstejerean wrote: post #16
jedberg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if an app is not available on the app store, does that stop you from getting it? That's a consumer benefit but it has no corresponding benefit to the developer, so it's unlikely to be a good argument for a developer to stick with the app store.

If it's a well known application I will go out of my way and buy it outside the store if that's the only way to get it. But for some random app that I just found I have to wonder if it's worth getting it from outside the store (and frequently the answer is no). I need to a) give my credit card to a random website that will probably get hacked in the next 12 months, b) start getting unsolicited email campaigns in abou…

I suspect you are a tiny minority though and that the cut the app store takes doesn't make up for losing a few folks like yourself.

However, I have no data to back up that claim, so I could very well be wrong.

I personally don't feel like you do because I use burner cards and emails to solve the hacking and spamming problems, and apps still have to be sandboxed unless you turn off that safeguard explicitly for the app.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by e40 »

spott wrote: post #4

The value-add of the mac store is just not very good anymore. There are only three reasons people might buy something from the mac store vs. from the developer directly: 1. To keep it getting updates through the app store vs. having to download from the developer when a new update comes out. 2. They found it in the mac store, and thus purchased it in the mac store. 3. They trust apple to reduce the risk of malware wh…

#4: I get to use it on 5 computers.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by awalton »

I wonder if articles like this will hasten non-app-store-apps' demise. Apple has already appeared to be quite itchy to lock down everything and weld the hood shut, throwing vendor kexts out of the kernel left and right and introducing ChromeOS-like OS verification steps, making users jump through several hoops to run downloaded executables... Apple's going to eventually want to stem the outgoing tide before too many apps flee the walled sandbox and have a voice loud enough that they can't simply ignore. (It's only a matter of "when" really; they made the OS free because they fully intend to get their 30% cut on every app sold, moving the iOS model to the Desktop.)

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by kornish »

jedberg wrote: post #8
tiglionabbit wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My #1 reason to use it is that it puts the purchase on my record so I can easily re-download it if I happen to lose it somehow. No more searching through ancient emails for activation codes.

But if an app is not available on the app store, does that stop you from getting it? That's a consumer benefit but it has no corresponding benefit to the developer, so it's unlikely to be a good argument for a developer to stick with the app store.

Wait a sec – consumer benefits absolutely affect the developer, because they affect whether or not the consumer buys the developer's app!

It's not necessarily a dealmaker or breaker; but if someone really cares about that and the market has many substitutes, it could be enough to sway them towards App Store purchase.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by sushid »

milankragujevic wrote: post #15
hkmurakami wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I buy my adobe software via Amazon for this exact reason. Meanwhile, I can't figure out how I can install Office 2011 on my new machine even though I have the key since MSFT doesn't even let me download the .dmg from their site anymore.

I like how even thought I got windows 10 home with my laptop I can't install it from anywhere because the laptop didn't come with a recovery USB and the recovery partition got corrupted so basically I have to rely on downloading so-called "MSDN" images from torrents and hope for the best, verifying the hashes along the way...

That's simply untrue. You can download a copy of Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft. [0] It's the first search result if you Google Windows 10 ISO.

Plus, most laptops don't come with a recovery USB (neither do Macs) and IMO having a recovery partition is silly when installing it from scratch is cleaner/easier.

[0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

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