That is what self-driving car should eventually use, whenever they (or the authorities) deem their model good enough. Burn it on a dedicated chip. It would be cheaper (energy) to run, and faster to make decisions.
The path to ubiquitous AI (17k tokens/sec)
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#392Re: The path to ubiquitous AI (17k tokens/sec)
#393There are use cases for fast/ultrafast inferrence models - classifying text, scoring things, extracting information - but for coding and other knowledge tasks - you're not going to get to your solution faster at 16,000 tokens/s if the solution never comes (or is the wrong one).
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#394Re: The path to ubiquitous AI (17k tokens/sec)
#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
If LLMs just regurgitate compressed text, they'd fail on any novel problem not in their training data. Yet, they routinely solve them, which means whatever's happening between input and output is more than retrieval, and calling it "not understanding" requires you to define understanding in a way that conveniently excludes everything except biological brains.
Yes there are some fascinating emergent properties at play, but when they fail it's blatantly obvious that there's no actual intelligence nor understanding. They are very cool and very useful tools, I use them on a daily basis now and the way I can just paste a vague screenshot with some vague text and they get it and give a useful response blows my mind every time. But it's very clear that it's all just smoke and mi…
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#396This is not a general purpose chip but specialized for high speed, low latency inference with small context. But it is potentially a lot cheaper than Nvidia for those purposes. Tech summary: - 15k tok/sec on 8B dense 3bit quant (llama 3.1) - limited KV cache - 880mm^2 die, TSMC 6nm, 53B transistors - presumably 200W per chip - 20x cheaper to produce - 10x less energy per token for inference - max context size: flexib…
In 20$ a die, they could sell Gameboy style cartridges for different models.
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#397Holy cow their chatapp demo!!! I for first time thought i mistakenly pasted the answer. It was literally in a blink of an eye.!! https://chatjimmy.ai/
Well it got all 10 incorrect when I asked for top 10 catchphrases from a character in Plato's books. It confused the baddie for Socrates.
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#398Now, when reading, the eye moves in little jumps - saccades. They last 10's of ms, the eye is blind during them, and with high-quality tracking, you know quite early just where that foveal peephole is going to land. So handwave a budget of a few ms for trajectory analysis, a few for 200 Hz rendering latency, and you still have 10-ish ms to play with. At 20k tok/s, that's 200 tok.
So perhaps one might JIT the next sentence, or the topic of the next paragraph, or the entire nature of the document, based on the user's attention. Imagine a universal document - you start reading, and you find the document is about, whatever you wanted it to be about?
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
PII redaction is a really good use-case. Also, "10k tokens per second would be fantastic" might not be sufficient (even remotely) if you want to "process millions of log lines per minute". Assuming a single log line at just 100 tokens, you need (100 * 2 million / 60) ~ 3.3 million tokens per second processing speed :)
Yeah I mean we have a mechanism that can bypass AI models for log lines where we are pretty sure no PII is in there (kind of like smart caching using fuzzy template matching to identify things that we have seen before many times, as logs tend to contain the same stuff over and over with tiny variations e.g. different timestamps), so we only need to pass the lines where we cannot be sure there's nothing to the AI for…
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#400This is genuinely an incredible proof-of-concept; the business implications of this demo to the AI labs and all the companies that derive a ton of profit from inference is difficult to understate, really. I think this is how I'm going to get my dream of Opus 3.7 running locally, quickly and cheaply on my mid-tier MacBook in 2030. Amazing. Anthropic et al will be able to make marginal revenue from licensing the weight…
I do like the idea of an aftermarket of ancient LLM chips that still have tons of useful life on text processing tasks etc. They don't talk about their architecture much, I wonder how well power can scale down. 200W for such a small model is not something I see happening in a laptop any time soon. Pretty hilarious implications for moat-building of the big providers too.
I'm confident there are at least 1-2 OOMs of improvement to come here in terms of the (intelligence : wattage) ratio.
I really thought we were going to need to see a couple of dramatic OOM-improvement changes to the model composition / software layer, in order to get models of Opus 3.7's capability running on our laptops.
This release tells me that eventual breakthrough won't even be strictly necessary, imo.