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Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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palata wrote: post #211
account42 wrote: post #128

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I think this gets complicated when you have larger open source projects where contributors change over time. By taking over stewardship of something that people depend on you should have some obligation to not intentionally fuck those people over even if you are not paid for it. This is also true to some extend when it's a project you started. I don't think you should e.g. be able to point to the typical liability di…

> By taking over stewardship of something that people depend on you should have some obligation No. If it's free and open source, all it says is what you can do with the code. There is no obligation towards the users whatsoever. If you choose to depend on something, it's your problem. The professional way to do it is either to contractually make sure that the project doesn't "fuck you over" (using your words), or to…

The problem is that open source projects are not just code but also communities and some authority over what ends up getting packaged in distros. The obligation is not to make people's experiences worse than what they would be had you not contributed and doing it for free doesn't absolve you of that.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by dizhn »

antonvs wrote: post #374
seg_lol wrote: post #318

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I just disabled webgl on my firefox and it worked fine. Your problems could be caused by a whiny fan. Here is the source https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs

I like the way multiple people feel the need to defend a buggy website with their anecdotal n=1 evidence. It’s not difficult to make a website that works for everyone.

Oh is it the website that's failing? I kind of assumed it was the web UI for the software. Workarounds sort of kind of make sense there.. Maybe.. But the website. That's bad.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by palata »

account42 wrote: post #391
palata wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By taking over stewardship of something that people depend on you should have some obligation No. If it's free and open source, all it says is what you can do with the code. There is no obligation towards the users whatsoever. If you choose to depend on something, it's your problem. The professional way to do it is either to contractually make sure that the project doesn't "fuck you over" (using your words), or to…

The problem is that open source projects are not just code but also communities and some authority over what ends up getting packaged in distros. The obligation is not to make people's experiences worse than what they would be had you not contributed and doing it for free doesn't absolve you of that.

> open source projects are not just code but also communities

No. Open source projects are open source projects. Open sourcing my code does not mean at all that I have to build a community.

> The obligation is

There is no obligation. Again I don't say that authors should be jerks (obviously they shouldn't), but what seems very unclear to too many people is that users are not entitled to anything at all.

Because you choose to depend on something that someone provided for free does not mean they now owe you anything. Just like if I donate 20 dollars to a charity, it doesn't mean that I must now volunteer for that charity.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by inumedia »

bojangleslover wrote: post #55
muragekibicho wrote: post #18

I ran a moderately large opensource service and my chronic back pain was cured the day I stopped maintaining the project. Working for free is not fun. Having a paid offering with a free community version is not fun. Ultimately, dealing with people who don't pay for your product is not fun. I learnt this the hard way and I guess the MinIO team learnt this as well.

Completely different situations. None of the MinIO team worked for free. MinIO is a COSS company (commercial open source software). They give a basic version of it away for free hoping that some people, usually at companies, will want to pay for the premium features. MinIO going closed source is a business decision and there is nothing wrong with that. I highly recommend SeaweedFS. I used it in production for a long…

Not seeing any one else comment about it, but I would caution against relying on Wasabi primarily. They actively and silently corrupted a lot of my data and still billed me for it. You'll just start seeing random 500s when trying to get data down from your bucket and it's just gone, no recovery, but it still counts as stored data so you're still paying for it.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by 0x457 »

phoronixrly wrote: post #201
ufocia wrote: post #188

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Yes the software is under AGPL. Go forth and forkify. The choice of AGPL tells you that they wanted to be the only commercial source of the software from the beginning.

> the software is under AGPL. Go forth and forkify. No, what was minio is now aistor, a closed-source proprietary software. Tell me how to fork it and I will. > they wanted to be the only commercial source of the software The choice of AGPL tells me nothing more than what is stated in the license. And I definitely don't intend to close the source of any of my AGPL-licensed projects.

> And I definitely don't intend to close the source of any of my AGPL-licensed projects.

If a commercial company has "core" version under AGPL, it usually means their free version is an extended demo of the commercial product.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by rbtrsv »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #89
justincormack wrote: post #24

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Wrote a bit about differences between rustfs and garage here https://buttondown.com/justincormack/archive/ignore-previous... - since then rustfs fixed the issue I found. They are for very different use cases. Rustfs really is close to a minio rewrite.

there is one thing that worries me about rustfs: https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs/blob/main/rustfs/src/licens... I expect rugpull in the future

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