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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by GoatInGrey »

rangestransform wrote: post #387
trollbridge wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

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I believe there to be some merit to the notion that it is better for society if many of the generational cycles which lead to crime are broken. Sometimes that involves off-ramps from the road to incarceration.

That said, the policy can be, and certainly is, applied in imbalanced ways when justice is pursued over pragmatism.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by GoatInGrey »

epistasis wrote: post #326
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Interesting, I hadn't considered theft recovery to be a use case for Airtags before. I've only used them for "where the hell did that X go".

To be fair, you'd likely ask that exact question if your X was stolen!

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by aikinai »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #366
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not your fault for leaving your property in your car. Wild to say that.

Lived in the Bay Area for over two decades. Yeah, leaving a visible item in your car is just bait for the smash-and-grab crowd. It sucks but once you know it, it would be like thinking you can just leave your wallet sitting on a counter.

You can also do that in high-functioning societies. In Japan people leave their purses, phones, etc to hold their seat before ordering in a café, going to the bathroom, etc.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by burnt-resistor »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #337
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

How useful is a GPS position for theft prevention? IME cops are not interested in doing more than filing a report after a theft, even if you have a live GPS location of the item for them. Do you try and go get it yourself?

In Austin, they won't lift a finger because they're underfunded and don't have the resources to address nonviolent crime.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by nirvdrum »

rangestransform wrote: post #387
trollbridge wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

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My experience with small police departments in the US is that they either don’t have the time or the inclination to deal with small property claims. If you’re a business they’ll be there in 10 minutes, but individuals aren’t afforded the same courtesy. Eventually, citizens realize it’s just not worth the cost or the hassle to report a crime unless it helps with an insurance claim.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by fuzzer371 »

rangestransform wrote: post #387
trollbridge wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

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That belief is not shared by law enforcement. But all the same, they'll refuse to help you anyway.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by burnt-resistor »

hk1337 wrote: post #328
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Initially they didn’t have it, people complained, now they do, and people still complain.

Wrong bothsidesism. The right choice was making a functional product. This is not that.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by fuzzer371 »

hk1337 wrote: post #328
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Initially they didn’t have it, people complained, now they do, and people still complain.

> Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

So you can either keep a tag on your stuff that lets anyone know where you are at all times, or just not misplace your keys. It really doesn't seem that hard to not use something this privacy intrusive if that's your threat model.

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