Wait so did this rollback? Initially they were about to forbid any install from non verified accounts, then allow them but just a limited number, this article seems to suggest there will just be extra steps?
Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
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>Why should the rest of us be punished? Exactly. I'm sick and tired of all the apps/websites that mandate 2fa. All of that adds friction when I'm a big boy who knows how to choose secure passwords. For that matter, why even invest resources into fraud detection or law enforcement? All of that money is coming out of somewhere, and why should my tax dollars go toward catching fake nigerian princes when it's just helpin…
https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fra...
I'm sympathetic to that argument, but to invoke it you have to argue why the anti-fraud measures outweigh the benefits, not just drop a link to it. Moreover that's giving too much credit to the OP, who doesn't even recognize there's some sort of a trade-off, only that "fool and their money is soon departed".
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#393Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, you’re so wrong about the app situation that it’s almost staggering. iOS apps tend to be more stable, better polished, have better integration with system features (like the Dynamic Island), and even often have more features. This isn’t even an unfounded opinion, it’s a material problem for Google and led them to vastly investing in automated testing and quality efforts App addressable user base is another…
The pricing gap also rules Apple out in a lot of markets. Almost nobody has Apple here in Spain, the only people i see are tourists and expats.
It's not the pricing gap, there's Android phones more expensive than the most expensive iPhone. There's just also tiered alternatives.
It's the fact Euro carriers are less likely to subsidize or finance the phone. And realistically, a $500 phone is pretty good these days.
In Canada (where phones are subsidized and/or financed) there's very few budget Android phones too. Almost all Samsung flagships, Pixels, etc...
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#394Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…
Advertising folks not engineers are now in charge of Google, and they are gaining influence at Apple now as well.
This is the real threat. Brand loyalty is a distraction.
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#395If the make sideloading high-friction, either via account-bound or apk upload or permissions from MNO/ISP, I will leave android. I have a bunch of my own apps that only I use, not released to the public, if I cannot use them, I have zero reason to stay on android. I think one of the reasons they want to lockdown the system is to prevent guys like me from locking THEM out of my home/ecosystems, as and example, I build…
Yeah, as an iOS dev, the grass is not greener on this side of the fence…
The point isn't that things are better on this axis on iOS, but that things are better on numerous other axes, to the point where many people are only using Android at all because it feels slightly more open and free than iOS... if Google wants to play Apple's game, then the only reasons to bother with the mess that is Android are gone, and so you'll see people switch to iOS.
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Do you want to use a different search engine other than google? Yes, type yahoo.com into your browser, or install an app. Non-technical people love installing apps on their phones. >Is there another email provider than gmail (for the non-technical person - i know you can run your own). Yes, there are hundreds of good e-mail providers to use instead of Gmail. Easy for the non-technical person to use.
No, that is not how you change search engines. In Chrome on Android (and yeah, on desktop too) you just go into "Settings" and change your default search engine. I can choose between Google, Yahoo!, Bing, Yandex, or DuckDuckGo. There are also custom searches through Wikipedia and other resources. You can use little shortcuts to get to almost any custom search you set up in advance. This has been configurable by the u…
> It is not a great experience to change your Default Browser on Android
It actually is, it just sounds more like it's Edge that isn't a great experience.
I've had Vivaldi as default for awhile now and it's great, everything is as seamless as using Chrome.
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#397I'm with Google on this one. Idiots and old people (the public) use these devices daily. These are the very same people that send money to Nigerian royalty and expect to hear back about a great reward. This is mostly a CYA move with hard data behind it. If they completely removed side load, that would be a different story.
This bit of article is what I'm hopeful will happen: > That explanation broadly matches what we’re seeing in recent versions of Google Play, where new warning messages emphasize developer verification, internet requirements, and potential risks, while still allowing users to proceed.
If google really cared about security, they would place ad's for shady apps right above the 2fa or banking app I searched for to install.
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#398Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…
I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? Browsers? No, strictly worse. Youtube app? No, worse. Texting? Worse or equal (Whatsapp). Podcast client? I assume worse, since there is no Antenna Pod. Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in…
> In which category are there better iOS apps?
Just one example, but aviation.
Foreflight is iOS-only. Literally the only reason I have iOS devices is because of app availability in this category.
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#399BOYCOTT.
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
To add more examples, a game I play on my phone got an update that adds controller support on iOS, with controller support on Android expected 6 months down the line.
There are plenty examples to the contrary. It's almost like one of the platforms has the supermajority of phones in most countries, so there are plenty of apps only targeting a single one.
Do you have any examples handy? It'd strengthen your argument a great deal, even if it wasn't the specific example of controller support.