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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by ucee054 »

solveew wrote: post #93
king_jester wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the equivalent of saying the author of this post is a reverse racist. When was the last time a white person was killed for being white? When was the last time someone came up to a white person and said they should be grateful that their ancestors were slaves? When was the last time the government systematically dismantled the white community in order to enforce racist class oppression? Repeat after me: WHITE…

Just look at the interracial rape and murder statistics. Blacks target whites for rape and murder in great quantities. During the Trayvon Martin debacle, a white kid in Kansas city was DOUSED IN GASOLINE and SET ON FIRE while two black kids say "you get what you deserve, white boy." Of course, you don't hear this in the media because the media wants to perpetuate a myth that whites aren't victims of racist violence.…

Whites are the people that built this country

If "built" == "shot the Native Americans who settled"

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by batgaijin »

jvm wrote: post #330
batgaijin wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to try and hijack this a little, just because I'm afraid it won't be seen anywhere else. I don't have a problem with racist/sexist jokes. I do however have a sever issue with healthcare and quality of education being tied to your parents employment and property ownership. I think that is much, much more terrible, as it not only screws over the poor in general, but in particular it really fucks over black pe…

> the most racist things don't target the race of anyone, just their income level. This is basically a denial that actual racism is a serious problem. I think that's worse than saying the n-word a thousand times. Even if Obamacare gives every black person free health insurance and also a pony, that's not going to make even a tiny dent in the racism that pervades our society, and saying that it will is just spreading…

Here are the facts:

This is from Wikipedia on demographics of the poor in the USA: The US Census declared that in 2010 15.1% of the general population lived in poverty:[30] 9.9% of all non-Hispanic white persons 12.1% of all Asian persons 26.6% of all Hispanic persons (of any race) 27.4% of all black persons.

Looks pretty bad for hispanics/black people, right?

Except it doesn't have the population breakdown...

White Americans (non-Hispanic/Latino and Hispanic/Latino) are the racial majority, with an 72% share of the U.S. population, per 2010 US Census.[6] Hispanic and Latino Americans compose 15% of the population, making up the largest ethnic minority.[5] Black Americans are the largest racial minority, composing nearly 13% of the population.

so here are some facts: .72 * 308 mil * .099 = 21.95 million white people .15 * 308 mil * .266 = 12.28 million hispanic people .12 * 308 mil * .274 = 10.97 million black people

Basically, what I'm trying to say is this: poor people get fucked in this country. They really do. When it happens to black people/hispanics, stupid hippies love to claim it's racism. Maybe, maybe it is a bit. But I don't think so. I think that poor people get fucked in this country with no social welfare net, poor infrastructure, and by making it illegal to take your kid to the rich public school.

A lot of black people and hispanics have pretty terrible options in life, but goddamn it, it's not racism. It's not white frat kids saying nigger. It's that they are poor. And there are a lot of white people in the same boat.

Racism is the false flag of socioeconomic problems in society.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by prickappa »

He sounds more racist and sexist than his coworkers, and almost as much as a jerk. Dude needs to get over himself. I can't believe this got over 300 points on HN, I thought people here were smarter than that. What a disappointment.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by fatbird »

russelluresti wrote: post #327
tptacek wrote: post #137

Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…

I don't believe the author is trying to unfairly tarnish the company he worked for. I do, however, believe that he cannot be an objective witness of events, as his recollection is being strongly influenced by his own personal biases. You make it seem so nice when you say "the author as an advocate for a fairly specific set of political and social beliefs." But let's be honest, the author is a racist. I get his frustr…

But once black people stop being racist, then we can talk about white people being racist, right?

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by jessedhillon »

tptacek wrote: post #321
taligent wrote: post #316

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Your definition of thuggish seems a bit off. Thug = a common criminal, who treats others violently and roughly. It's akin to calling someone 'white trash'.

Is the point I'm making unclear? Would you like me to reword it? Is there a word you'd prefer I had used in that place instead?

Your point is clear: you're dealing with people who are being willfully moronic. In general, it's advisable to attribute stupidity and not malice -- in this case we are being inflicted with malicious stupidity.

I do believe these arguments being forwarded are deliberately obtuse: whenever an argument is proposed without anticipating and responding to the most obvious challenges, and the person appears to be otherwise possessed of significant intellect, I conclude that the banality is intentional.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by batgaijin »

javert wrote: post #343
batgaijin wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to try and hijack this a little, just because I'm afraid it won't be seen anywhere else. I don't have a problem with racist/sexist jokes. I do however have a sever issue with healthcare and quality of education being tied to your parents employment and property ownership. I think that is much, much more terrible, as it not only screws over the poor in general, but in particular it really fucks over black pe…

healthcare and quality of education being tied to your parents employment and property ownership Unless I misunderstand you, that's part of reality. Healthcare and education don't fall from the sky. Somebody has to produce them. In order for them to be consumed, they have to either be paid for, or stolen. the most racist things don't target the race of anyone, just their income level Racism has a specific definition,…

This is why I barely go on this forum any more, stupid fucking fellow Americans.

Did you know that in other countries healthcare is free? And top quality education? And college?

We could have it to, if all you shits didn't incorporate in Delaware. Goddamn this country.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by cpeterso »

001sky wrote: post #231
tptacek wrote: post #137

Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…

Relevant> via google image search: http://allthingsd.com/20120530/kixeyes-games-on-facebook-are...

Also: "Brogrammers Wanted: Kixeye, the gaming startup that proves Silicon Valley’s frat-house culture isn’t going away anytime soon."

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/08/...

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by prickappa »

javert wrote: post #346
nollidge wrote: post #220

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Yo, based on the copious number of comments you've made addressing this I know you're super concerned about that single anecdote from within a larger context, but she didn't get her head bitten off, unless for some weird reason you're reading him as actually saying "Dumbwhite" out loud at her, despite it not being in quotes.

No, he's right. The basic principle here is, do not talk to "progressive" black people, because you are likely to say something innocuous that they interpret as highly offensive. That is the message being sent here.

So much this. The calculator comment was in no way racist.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by cpeterso »

russelluresti wrote: post #327
tptacek wrote: post #137

Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…

I don't believe the author is trying to unfairly tarnish the company he worked for. I do, however, believe that he cannot be an objective witness of events, as his recollection is being strongly influenced by his own personal biases. You make it seem so nice when you say "the author as an advocate for a fairly specific set of political and social beliefs." But let's be honest, the author is a racist. I get his frustr…

> his recollection is being strongly influenced by his own personal biases.

He wisely documented all the abusive incidents. He doesn't need to "recall" anything.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by Torgo »

groby_b wrote: post #292
to_jon wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I agree, but some of his content will be a barrier for some people. I'm sure if the tone of the post was milder, most of the comments here would be supportive." -- too typical a response "Peppered throughout the post are cultural signs and signifiers that mark the author as an advocate for a fairly specific set of political and social beliefs." -- completely irrelevant to assessing the facts of the case As a white m…

Sigh. It's classic derailment. "Your damaging your cause by being so aggressive". "You're seeing problems where none exist". You get the same answers when you debate women's issues. And I have no doubt any other minority's issues, too. It's so common there's even a bingo card for it: http://tumblinfeminist.tumblr.com/post/12171070300/notasking...

I just downloaded a bingo card from Freerepublic. Say some more stuff.
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