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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Can you confirm (or not) the mandatory female co-founder? I could swear I read it. Or could it be another EU fund?

None I've seen had such requirement. There's ton of them though, with lot of flexibility on country level.

https://eic.ec.europa.eu/eic-funding-opportunities/eic-accel...

> The EIC welcomes applications from innovators in all EU Member States and countries associated to the Horizon Europe programme. It particularly welcomes applications from startups and SMEs with female CEOs.

So that's one that strongly pushes that angle. But the one I saw I clearly remember saying "female co-founder", not CEO.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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This raises an interesting question. Is there only one dialect of German in the LLM? My understanding is that the German German and Austrian German dialects are significantly different.

My German teacher always claimed that Swiss German and German German (Hochdeutsch) were so different that she needed subtitles to understand it, and she didn't understand why they weren't considered separate languages.

They are considered separate languages in the same way that Chinese “dialects” are considered separate languages.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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They are in fact considered separate languages.

Yes but in practice pretty much the same except for some local changes in grammar and vocabulary, in written form. The dialects are a whole other thing though.

The same could be said of all Chinese dialects, which are also formally considered separate languages by all linguists.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Still an official language, thankfully. Officially, because of Cyprus.

Malta and ireland

But if you’re only allowed one official language to add to the mix, they’d surely pick Maltese and Irish.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Flemish is more of a political construct than linguistic, it's a grouping of belgian-dutch the coastal, brabant and limburg language groups with each having their own regional dialects.

It's more than political. In speaking Flemish is to Dutch as UK English is to US English. In writing however there is no difference in spelling, but there is a difference in word choice. Now, being from Belgium, even within that small part of the country where everybody is supposed to speak Dutch, I genuinely don't understand people from near the coast, which was about 150 miles from where I used to live.

Are you saying UK and US speak a different language? No one doubts it’s a different dialect, but we are talking about languages.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Not sure that should be the qualifier, there might be more people able to speak Basque in the world than Danish, doesn't stop Danish from being well supported.

Quick google points to about 1M Basque speakers in the EU against 5-6M Danish speakers, there's also the fact that Basque is not the only official language in the country it belongs to, and that it's in fact not spoken in the vast majority of the country. From https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor... we can find an excerpt relating to the policy and its purpose: >One of the EU’s founding princi…

Irish would have been a better comparison. More speakers of Basque in Spain than Irish in Ireland.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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like British English vs US English, Flemish is a dialect of dutch

Ah. That makes sense. It's all Greek, to me...

No, that’s the other side of the continent.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I think those 24 languages reflect all the languages that are official languages at country level. So for instance, Basque is not an official language of any country (only French in France and Spanish/Castilian in Spain). Belgium's official languages are French, Dutch, and German, "Flemish" is only a local variant of Dutch (Belgian French is also only a local variant of French).

Official is a weird concept though. Turns out Dutch law never really bothered to define an official language, Dutch simply is the de facto standard and is required for a lot of things making it effectively the standard. This makes Dutch Sign Language the only language officially recognised by law. An attempt to recognise Frysian and Dutch as official languages in the constitution failed.

Same situation in USA, believe it or not.
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