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Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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Where I live, people have issues getting hired past age 50, and it’s near impossible past age 60. It’s a stroke of luck if you score a job then. So yes they can raise retirement age, but that will just create misery for all those who can’t cling to a job long enough. There‘s got to be a better way.

Shorten lifespan.

Cut all things that promote or enable public health.

In neo-feudalism, only lords and perhaps some of their most favored serfs, deserve private for profit health care, and the barrier to entry is cost. Why be wealthy if you can’t buy things other people can’t?

There’s always a surplus of peasants in this model.

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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post #288

Where I live, people have issues getting hired past age 50, and it’s near impossible past age 60. It’s a stroke of luck if you score a job then. So yes they can raise retirement age, but that will just create misery for all those who can’t cling to a job long enough. There‘s got to be a better way.

In Denmark, you also have to have a medical exam to maintain your drivers license after you turn 70, but they have no problem with carpenters running around on roofs until they're 74.

Well you normally don't kill someone else if you fall off a roof.

Running a car at highway speeds into something or someone else has a much higher chance of injuring or killing multiple people besides the driver.

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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the boomers were so exceptional that their exceptionality should not be ignored in public discourse. We will never have such a big generation ever again, so all their dreams about endless welfare will go away with them. I dont know if anyone is planning the post-boomer world, it all seems to happen-as-you-go.

The most hilarious policies are the ones aiming to force people to have more kids, by paying them or by attacking feminism and lgbt. Making the society unfree will make people less willing to put more kids in it.

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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I can only give you the rundown for Germany, but I guess it’s similar in Denmark: Basically the state spends to much money on humans in general. A young qualified immigrant might have a less negative impact than a slightly older German person, but both of them will be money sinks in the long run. Statistically immigrants in Germany are less qualified than the general population, so they’ll have an even more negative…

> Statistically immigrants in Germany are less qualified than the general population, so they’ll have an even more negative impact. I need to see some data backing this. Also regardless of stats, many war refugees(the net negatives as told by media) are actually highly qualified but the asylum process and qualification recognition process is eternal. On top of the trauma and uncertainty, they also need to learn a new…

You are right regarding the insufficient opportunities for highly qualified people.

Regarding your other point: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/whats-new/publications/oec...

The liked pdf there gives a good overview.

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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It might be the obvious solution but is it the right one? People are significantly more productive than say 50 years ago due to technological advancement. So where is all the money going? I am no economist but it is my understanding that all this extra money goes to the rich because they've entrenched themselves in positions where they can extract a portion of a person's income with no recourse. It's not normal that…

You only get paid because someone pays you. More outputs do not mean you will get paid more if everyone does so

Exactly. The amount of cost savings produced does not determine their value if everyone can perform them.

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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In Denmark, you also have to have a medical exam to maintain your drivers license after you turn 70, but they have no problem with carpenters running around on roofs until they're 74.

There's a huge difference between endangering other people vs endangering only yourself.

you've clearly never been fallen upon by a septuagenarian roofer

Re: Denmark to raise retirement age to 70

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post #390

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In Denmark, you also have to have a medical exam to maintain your drivers license after you turn 70, but they have no problem with carpenters running around on roofs until they're 74.

There's a huge difference between endangering other people vs endangering only yourself.

Yeah, it's not like operating heavy equipment at a construction site will ever endanger anyone.
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