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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Post by rain_iwakura »

loveparade wrote: post #335
threeseed wrote: post #308

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You can hate Elon Musk as much as you want, but he absolutely knows a decent amount of Physics and Material Science. That's what he studied and has always wanted to do before PayPal. He even get into a Material Science PhD at Stanford. He drove a lot of the engineering at both Tesla and SpaceX. And without that, probably none of these companies would've worked out.

he never got into stanford. he made that up. there is no record of his admittance. and court records show that stanford dean (under oath) had to admit that they couldn't locate them. do you have source on "drove a lot of engineering" claim? even if you worked at one of these, could you prove the other?

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Post by austhrow743 »

hipadev23 wrote: post #349
alex_young wrote: post #257

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The heart tweet rebellion is about as meaningful as adding a hashtag supporting one side of your favorite conflict. Come on. “By 5 pm everyone will quit if you don’t do x”. Response: tens of heart emojis.

Anyone worth a shit will leave and go work with Sam. OpenAI will be left with a bunch of below average grifters.

In a dispute between people willing to sacrifice profit for values and those chasing the profit, why on earth would you put grifters on team values over profit?

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Post by londons_explore »

alex_young wrote: post #257
alsodumb wrote: post #120

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Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter re-tweeted Sam Atlman's heart tweet with their own heart or some other supportive message. I'm sure that's a sign that they are all team Sam - this includes a ton of researchers you see on most papers that came out of OpenAI. That's a good chunk of their research team and that'd be a very big loss. Also there are tons of engineers (and I know a few of t…

The heart tweet rebellion is about as meaningful as adding a hashtag supporting one side of your favorite conflict. Come on. “By 5 pm everyone will quit if you don’t do x”. Response: tens of heart emojis.

Sam hasn't yet lined up the funding, so therefore they can't yet offer decent jobs, so therefore the openai employees haven't left

But they will.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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Post by ShamelessC »

jxi wrote: post #111
jart wrote: post #47

So long Mira Murati. That's the second CEO OpenAI has ousted in one week. https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Her move makes even less sense than what the board did. The board told her the day before that they're firing Sam, so she obviously accepted it. But, one day later she caves and sides with Sam (that's what the heart tweet means)? That's weak leadership and resolve.

> But, one day later she caves and sides with Sam (that's what the heart tweet means)

The amount of weight people here give to an _emoji_ on this site... Rampant, unnecessary, baseless speculation in every comment thread bout Altman.

Just wait til monday next time. These ultra wealthy over-privileged Worldcoin fucks are not worth this much attention.

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Post by loveparade »

kiidev wrote: post #379
loveparade wrote: post #335

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You can hate Elon Musk as much as you want, but he absolutely knows a decent amount of Physics and Material Science. That's what he studied and has always wanted to do before PayPal. He even get into a Material Science PhD at Stanford. He drove a lot of the engineering at both Tesla and SpaceX. And without that, probably none of these companies would've worked out.

Another of Musk’s lies that keeps being propagated “ In 1995, he was accepted to a PhD program in materials science at Stanford University.[64][65] However, Musk decided to join the Internet boom, dropping out two days after being accepted and applied for a job at Netscape” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

Maybe read my comment again? There is no lie. I said accepted, not attended. And if you've ever tried to get into a PhD program at Stanford you'd know that isn't easy unless you have, you know, at least a little bit of knowledge of the field. So the parent claiming that Elon Musk doesn't even know basic Physics is blatantly wrong.

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

slkdjfalzkdfj wrote: post #233
alsodumb wrote: post #51

I think Adam D'Angelo has a very strong conflict of interest and shouldn't have been on the board of OpenAI. I'm sure Quora views took a hit after ChatGPT. Not like Quora was any good before ChatGPT, they just managed to get to the top of Google results for a lot of common questions. Now, Poe by Quora was trying to go big on custom agents. The GPT Agents announcement on DevDay was a fundamental threat to Poe in many…

Adam was appointed to the OpenAI board in April 2018, long before ChatGPT and Poe. He's always been somewhat interested/involved in AI/ML so the appointment broadly makes sense to me. Also keep in mind that a year earlier in Spring 2017 Sam Altman led Quora's Series D, after YC previously joined in on Quora's Series C in 2014. So the two of them clearly had some pre-existing relationship. I don't think OpenAI and Quo…

I thought Poe was a partnership with Anthropic?

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Post by alex_young »

happytiger wrote: post #367
alex_young wrote: post #257

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The heart tweet rebellion is about as meaningful as adding a hashtag supporting one side of your favorite conflict. Come on. “By 5 pm everyone will quit if you don’t do x”. Response: tens of heart emojis.

I take it you have never made a pledge to someone. It’s a signal. The only meaning is the circumstances under which the signal is given: Sam made an ask. These were answers.

This is how one answers if they actually intend to quit: https://x.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559?s=46&t=Q5EXJgwO...

There’s nothing wrong with not following, it’s a brave and radical thing to do. A heart emoji tweet doesn’t mean much by itself.

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Post by [deleted] »

yeck wrote: post #323
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #57

I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…

Well, despite what Musk did, X (Twitter?) has still been limping along for quite a while now. While more abrupt and surprising, this doesn't seem nearly as bad as that.

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Post by astrange »

ethbr1 wrote: post #309
bnralt wrote: post #289

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> Aligning a super intelligence with our desires is a problem that no one has solved yet. It's a problem that we haven't seen the existence of yet. It's like saying no one has solved the problem of alien invasions.

No, the problem with AGI is potential exponential growth. So less like an alien invasion. And more like a pandemic at the speed of light.

Exponential growth is not intrinsically a feature of an AGI except that you've decided it is. It's also almost certainly impossible.

Main problems stopping it are:

- no intelligent agent is motivated to improve itself because the new improved thing would be someone else, and not it.

- that costs money and you're just pretending everything is free.

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