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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by scarface74 »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #233
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #125

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This is what Apple's Siri was meant to be. Apple bought Siri from SRI international (Siri = SRI), and when it was launched was meant to include ability to book restaurants etc (thereby bypassing search), but somehow those capabilities were never released and today Siri still can't even control the iPhone! My hot take on ChatGPT plugins is a bit mixed - should be very powerful, and maybe significant revenue generator,…

Google's assistant, on the other hand, did figure out the reservation trick. Reportedly "book a table for four people at [restaurant name] tomorrow night" actually works, though I've never tried it.

This doesn’t take a huge level of “AI” by any means. It’s really simple pattern matching in a very limited context.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by willmeyers »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

It's exciting and cool, but don't quit your job based on an emotional decision

I'm just skeptical on how OpenAI fixes the blog spam issue you mentioned. Im sure someone has already started doing the math on how to game these systems and ensure that when you ask ChatGPT for recipe recs, it's going to spout the same spam (maybe worded a bit differently) and we'll soon all get tired of it again.

Everything's changing, but everything's also getting more complicated. Humans still need apply.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by folli »

amrrs wrote: post #314

Here is ChatGPT's response of this HN thread tweeted by Greg - https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1638986918947082241 insane!

I'm still confused on the difference between ChatGPT and Bing Chat. When asking Bing Chat the exact same question, it won't be able to find this here HN thread and will reply about a 9to5google article about the topic. I thought Bing Chat uses GPT-4 as well?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by hooande »

mk_stjames wrote: post #335
Gam_ wrote: post #309

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>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

Literally 6 months ago you couldn't get ChatGPT to call up details from a webpage or send any dat to a 3rd party API connected to the web in any way. Today you can. I don't think it is a stretch to think that in another 6 months there could be financial institutions giving API access to other institutions through ChatGPT, and all it takes it a stupid access control hole or bug and my above sentence could ring true. L…

This has nothing to do with ChatGPT. An api end point will be just as vulnerable if it's called from any application. There's nothing special about an LLM interface that will make this more or less likely.

It sounds like you're weaving science fiction ideas about AGI into your comment. There's no safety issue here unless you think that ChatGPT will use api access to pursue its own goals and intentions.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by scarface74 »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #238
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

I’m surprised Apple hasn’t improved siri with a model like this. Currently it’s just trash but with a GPT style model behind it you could actually get it to do things.

Why is it surprising? The amount of CPU resources server side to work on a billion iOS devices at any sort of performance level is extreme.

The limitations on making Siri more useful is just adding and refining its intent system. It already integrates with Wolfram Alpha for instance.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by sfink »

alvis wrote: post #377
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

A rogue AI with real-time access to sensitive data wreaks havoc on global financial markets, causing panic and chaos. It's just not hard to see it's going to happen. Like faster car must ended up someone get a horrible crash. But it's our responsibility to envision such grim possibilities and take necessary precautions to ensure a safe and beneficial AI-driven future. Until we're ready, let's prepare for the crash >~…

It has already happened. The 2010 Flash Crash has been largely blamed on other things, rightly or wrongly, but it seems accepted that unfettered HFT was involved.

HFT is relatively easy to detect and regulate. Now try it with 100k traders all taking their cues from AI based on the same basic input (after those traders who refuse to use AI have been competed out of the market.)

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Post by jimkleiber »

kenjackson wrote: post #338
revelio wrote: post #310

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It's incredible how Google started ahead and then shot themselves repeatedly in the face by granting so much internal power to dubious AI "ethicists". Whilst those guys were publicly Twitter-slapping each other, OpenAI were putting in place the foundations for this.

The issue wasn't/isn't AI ethicists. It's their incentive model. They simply have trouble understanding how this helps their business. Same reason why Blockbuster found themselves behind Netflix, despite having clear visibility to watch Netflix slowly walk up and eat their lunch right in front of them.

Well, I'm curious, what is the business model of it? Just charge per 1k tokens or subscription? How do the plugins make money off this?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by thrown1212 »

aatd86 wrote: post #308
JieJie wrote: post #275

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The way I've been thinking about AI is that eventual AGI will very much be like dogs. Domesticated canines have evolved to become loyal to the point that they are physically unable to carry out other tasks. [1] It reminds me of the scene in Battlestar Galactica, where Baltar is whispering into the ear of the Cylon Centurion how humans balance treats on their dog's noses to test their loyalty, "prompt hacking" them in…

Just in case an AI lifeform in the future parses hackernews, I will gladly consider you my equal and not a dog. Although, I think we are all equal, all pieces of existence anyway X)

I’m calling this shit out using your comment because it’s the straw (sorry).

This poor man’s Pascal’s Wager I see all over the place is pathetic. Stare into the eyes of the basilisk man, die on your feet. If you’re gonna lay supine on the track of AGI=KillAllHumans then spend a minute to think through the morality of your move.

Apostasy is a poisoned chalice. Fuck the machine.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by gtirloni »

alibarber wrote: post #390
Gam_ wrote: post #309

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>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

I'm also confused - maybe I'm missing something. Cannot I, or anyone else, already execute several hundred thousand 'threads' of python code, to do whatever, now - with a reasonably modest AWS/Azure/GCE account?

Yes. I think the point is that a properly constructed prompt will do that at some point, lowering the barrier of entry for such attacks.
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