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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by N3Xxus_6 »

skoskie wrote: post #122
foerbert wrote: post #88

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Really? I made the same move (or at least finished it 100%) at the same time, and that's not a problem I've ever seen. Some (surprisingly few, actually) don't perform well under Wine/Proton, or at all, but random freezing I've never seen. And certainly not all of my games.

But it’s linux, so one obscure setting in a config file or slightly different hardware can make all the difference. I say this as a linux user since WinXP. The whole OS market is pretty rough right now.

Yep this is the correct answer. Some many variables in Linux could cause an issue, like freezing.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by [deleted] »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #81
Pasorrijer wrote: post #50

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As an officer worker, there are many many things I do that cannot be done in a web browser. File comparison tools, macros and complex excel queries, hard applications for both new and legacy critical programs... Can this be done on Linux? Frequently. Can it be done in a web browser? Rarely effectively and often not at all.

I'd have to say that, today, all of those can be done in the browser except Excel. File comparison, hard applications, legacy code, can be compiled to WASM and run quite well in the browser. The pieces are in place to do it, they just need polishing and tuning to make it ubiquitous. Even Excel could be compiled like this but again MS wants to own you and pin you over a barrel while extracting everything they can from…

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by notRobot »

sgjohnson wrote: post #210
khaledh wrote: post #98

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The problem is that Windows with all its warts now is still far ahead of the competition in that department (desktop GUI). Whether that's due to monopoly or being actually better, it doesn't matter. The fact is competition is almost non-existent.

In what ways is Windows desktop GUI better than macOS? The only thing Windows has going for itself is backwards compatability.

You also can't run macOS on most hardware, so...

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by thombles »

userbinator wrote: post #247
robertwt7 wrote: post #115

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just wondering 1 thing.. is there anyone in microsoft that looks at the feedback hub or forum at least? They never seem to listen to ANY feedback..

They do look at it. Just not to do what you'd expect with what they see... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29954266

I posted an update to that article just the other day - it's a (new?) policy that feedback will be retained for at most 15 months. FBH can be safely disregarded as a waste of time.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by legalcorrection »

dimgl wrote: post #299
ficiek wrote: post #250

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>Linux still barely works in 2022 I have had zero problem running linux as my daily driver for the last 10 years, care to explain your comment? The only problem that I have is that video games don't always work because the developers don't care.

I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by srvmshr »

devmunchies wrote: post #358
srvmshr wrote: post #336

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That misguided notion of product features and integration, where the user has minimum role, started out at Apple. The standard pattern used to be talking to OEMs and discussing what users wanted from them. That review phase generated update ideas for next release and so on. Apple turned that question on its head and made it "the one last thing" show business. We have employed a generation of PMs now who idolize Steve…

> We have employed a generation of PMs now who idolize Steve Jobs' mantra: "Users dont know what they want until you show it to them". just because a bunch of dumb PMs are pushing hot garbage to the user doesn't mean that statement is false. There almost always IS a way to improve and innovate a user experience—a new experience that the user hasn't thought of before. Its just that the PM incentives aren't aligned wit…

That is a good observation. The whole GTalk-Hangout-Chat saga at Google is testament to that misguided ideology.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by jonathanlydall »

neltnerb wrote: post #199
khaledh wrote: post #24

This article nails a lot of the issues with Windows 11. I bit the bullet and upgraded to Windows 11 late last year thinking it must be an improvement over Windows 10. It turned out to be a big step backwards. - Changing the default browser is a lot of work instead of a single click. - I can't move the task bar to the side, even though almost every monitor nowadays has much more horizontal space than vertical. - All a…

It seems to frequently be true that Microsoft releases a horrifying nightmare OS, polishes is up and removes hated features, and then releases a new version. It's been a bit of a pattern. Windows 8 -> Windows 10 Windows Vista -> Windows 7 and even before that: Windows Me -> Windows 2000 -> Windows XP was a pretty solid chain that shows it over three releases (personally I think XP was buggier, I don't know what the i…

> Windows Me -> Windows 2000

This isn’t a transition which existed.

Windows ME didn’t get replaced by 2000, they were both released around the same time.

In terms of OS evolution, there were two separate branches, Windows NT and Windows 95.

On the 95 branch: 95 > 98 > ME > Discontinued

On the NT branch: NT 3.5 > NT 4 > 2000 > XP > Vista > 7 > 8 > 10 > 11

Non-business users were originally only ever on the 95 branch, then when it was discontinued they were transitioned to Windows XP, but the neutered home edition, which has been the model since.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by gorgoiler »

Very tangential, but the free and open source code (“Linux”) counterpoint to software longevity is version control.

You don’t need to care about old binary compatibility because you don’t have old binaries, only old source code. If your modern compiler doesn’t like it, just build the old compiler instead.

Good luck finding a matching libxyz though, for your git checkout —before 10.years.ago. Friendly reminder to vendor in your third party dependencies alongside your source code.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by chillwaves »

mikevin wrote: post #131
rbut wrote: post #56

Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

> It's even worse when you activate Office 365. There is a small checkbox at the end which if you don't uncheck, converts your local administrator into your Microsoft account.. Going back to a local administrator account is not an easy task. I'm not even sure it's possible, I've tried multiple approaches but gave up after almost having to do a clean install. Now I have to deal with an accountname that contains multip…

Can't you just make a new local admin account and delete all traces of the other account, including in the registry?

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by konstmonst »

tjr225 wrote: post #311
skoskie wrote: post #122

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But it’s linux, so one obscure setting in a config file or slightly different hardware can make all the difference. I say this as a linux user since WinXP. The whole OS market is pretty rough right now.

Unless you care about gaming MacOS has been rock solid for at least a decade. For what it is worth I am no mac fanboy, I am typing this to you on a windows 10 computer in my shop(that I use for gaming, among other things).

I've got a Mac at work and I hate it with passion. I now use my own linux Laptop instead. There is no del key, no home, ctrl and alt are swapped in some aplications and not the others. Login screeen does not remember the language and animations come back after every update even when I explicitly disable them. Muscle memory from other 99% computers I use doesn't work and most of the games don't. I feel like mac os is in contempt of me and I really hate it when I have to use it for mandatory tasks. Mac doesnt fit for me at all, I use Linux for Production and Windows for games
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