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Alternately, yet another right wing "alternative" site had poor security practices and got exploited. They had S3 buckets full of customer data sitting open for some time, and they stayed accessible days after it was widely known.

So just so I am no misunderstanding you here.

You are implying if your site or company has poor security practices its okay for hackers to steal data?

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You think pointing out that there’s far-right extremists managing this whole show is a “weak indictment” when one of the stated goals of said protest is to overturn a democratically elected government?

It's a strong indictment to the extent that this person actually "runs the show" and his views about race represent the majority of protesters' views. Which is to say "yes, it's a weak indictment".

Idk. At best you are defending the idea that the majority of protestors are pawns in someone else’s game, no? Just because someone doesn’t know they’re being used doesn’t mean they aren’t being used …

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Absolutely correct, but that doesn't really change the validity of either of the points that I made.

So you think it's acceptable for citizens in one country to fund political movements in other countries? Would you feel the same way about oligarchs in Russia or China funding political organizations in the US?

It's quite amazing to see Americans complain about political interference now.

Eastern European right wing politicians have always complied about westerners forming NGOs to promote their ideology like same-sex marriage.

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Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government. And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

Former Newfoundland Premier Brian Peckford, one of the men who helped draft our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, is suing the government, claiming that these travel restrictions on Canadian citizens are unconstitutional. It's a pretty remarkable situation to have someone who wrote our constitution pointing out that the government is in error.

The last man alive who sat with PET and the other premiers to discuss how Trudeau’s unacceptable constitution (to the premiers who had to be on board) was going to pass muster.

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Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Yes, so they don't contribute to the clogging of hospitals (90% of COVID related hospitalizations are unvaccinated people). Stop being so selfish and get vaccinated.

Not all unvaccinated people end up in a hospital though. So aren't we discriminating against them?

It's equivalent to saying that lets bar all male Canadian citizens from entering Canada, since over 90% of rapes are committed by men!

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> Our government just isn't that lawless Both recent and historical evidence does not really support this claim. It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit. I don’t think it was the Canadian government either, but your logic does not seem good.

imo our government is probably lawless enough, but I doubt that it is competent enough to pull something off like that. The CSIS pays bad wages, their employees are mostly there for the cushy 9 to 5.

So incompetent they couldn't access an unsecured Amazon S3 bucket that was known to be insecure for some time? It sounds to me like GiveSendGo is simply incompetent with respect to security and some unskilled "hacker" took advantage of their incompetence.

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For those of you still on the fence or just learning about this, here's a rundown of the fine people in charge of this travesty of a "protest": https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-majo... PAT KING: Pat King is a far-right protester who has said in videos posted to social media that there may be future plans to target politicians' homes and that "the only way that this is going to be solved is with…

I genuinely wonder how many of the people protesting actually know who this person is or what he believes (if the parent comment even accurately represents him--I really have no idea). Reminds me of how people would criticize BLM protests on the basis that some people in the BLM org had ties to communism--a very weak criticism considering how many better criticisms existed and how few of the protesters had related vi…

King is literally a founding convoy organizer who calls the shots and has a massive following and influence on the convoy members. His videos get 100's of thousands of views and he influenced the convoy 'manifesto' that they created to try to overthrow the government. Your comment shows you have done zero research into the matter. He's a vocal white supremacist who believes Islam has taken over the government to kill white bloodlines. You can find many videos of him saying this to be broadcast to his following.

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I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? I’m not holding a strong opinion on the subject but it’s kind of silly bias to compare this to blm with your phrasing. Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison.

No person protesting during the BLM riots had "gone through much worse for hundreds of years." The truckers had personally experienced the thing they are protesting against (or would be affected by it going forward).

To clarify, the truckers have not been affected by the vaccine mandate until now. They were given two years to get an innocuous jab.

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It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't).

That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional (I assume some political end game), but their actions are fueling even more outlandish conspiracy theories.

The most insane was that all layers of government did nothing to stop the noise (truck horns), but it ended when a 21 year old who simply filed a court injunction and the protesters complied.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1...

I've watched the Toronto Police Service play their A game through this entire debacle. They shut down the protests hard and were clearly visible throughout the city with heavy trucks and busses to block roads and maintain control of the situation.

https://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=2376560

The idea that Justin Trudeau needs martial law to deal with parked trucks is outrageous. This isn't an insurrection (reference to an MOU was removed from their website and I agree with the assertion that it was a poorly thought out idea, not a threat), there is no violence, and no obvious danger. The last person to use martial law was Trudeau's father (Pierre) for an actual terrorist attack and kidnapping (the diplomat was later murdered). Get some proper police on the job and drop mandates for ineffective measures and let's move on with our lives.

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> Our government just isn't that lawless Both recent and historical evidence does not really support this claim. It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit. I don’t think it was the Canadian government either, but your logic does not seem good.

Both the words "our government" (i.e. the current canadian government), and "that" are doing work. Neither examples of random governments committing significant crimes, nor of the Canadian government committing less significantly corrupt crimes, contradict the premise.

There is ample evidence of the Canadian government breaking the law for their own benefit and there is ample evidence for these occurrences being “significant”.

And that’s not even taking into account that once trust is broken there are likely many more instances that aren’t known.

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