What is super annoying is getting the AirPods traveling with you notice when you’re around family that live in the same house or when you’re traveling on a plane or anywhere else crowded. It’s completely useless.
An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
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Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#392Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
> Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that.
I feel like this is ignoring the fact that if any company other than Apple made these trackers, it wouldn't do this with anyone's phones. The fact that these work out of the box with iPhones is a bonus, not an entitlement that any phone of any brand should have full support for them without installing any apps and without the user even knowing that the product exists.
> All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker.
I guess they could make the packaging more tamper resistant somehow, but again this is kind of shifting the goals a bit. I don't think it's reasonable to expect that every device will be physically resistant to modifications that would enhance illegal use. An iPhone with the speaker removed and screen cable cut to look dead would make a pretty good tracker too.
> AirTags are cheaper than competing GPS trackers, most of which require subscriptions.
If you are risking prison time to commit premeditated violence, I think you can spare a few extra bucks for the best technology available. I'm pretty sure professional hitman services run well into the trunk loaded with bags of cash territory.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#393Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
Android users can use AirGuard, an open source app to detect AirTags following you:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_t...
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#394AirTags last only one year and you can't replace the battery or recharge it? Is that right what I'm reading? I gave up on Tile for that reason about 3 years ago, although they may have added a replaceable / rechargable one. The Tiles were useful while they kept charge. Apple has a lot larger participant network as well than the tile network.
Not only can you replace the battery, part of the directions for dealing with an unknown AirTag that you found tracking you is to remove the battery.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've said this in other threads, but I'm probably done buying AirTags, because the anti-stalking features, that I assume you're aware of, are so annoying, that I don't want to add any more to my life. When I get in my car with my wife, we both get a notification that an AirTag is following us, because my wife is potentially stalking me with her purse and keys. I can silence this notification for only one day. I can't…
Apple just needs to add shared AirTags to iClould family sharing. I think that’d solve your issue and ~90% of other unwanted stalking alerts. They already allow shared “Find My iDevice” and just need to add AirTags to the mix.
Family sharing is how you permanently silence one with you. Otherwise the only option is 24h.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But Apple apparently has done it with anti-stalking features but is too high-profile. Remember that stalking isn't a profession; it's often a crime of opportunity, with plenty of reported cases of e.g. people slipping GPS trackers into spouses' cars/bags before or during divorces. Those people aren't sophisticated, and might go on Amazon and see Tiles that won't work (sparse detection network), or GPS trackers that…
It's all adding up to a pretty good guerilla marketing campaign. Get an iPhone, or else. Every Android user needs Airguard, which will scan constantly for airtags. It's open source
I think it's a horrible world we now live in where we HAVE to install software to solve a problem other people have created for my safety in the real world.
I bet you Google has had conversations about integrating some kind of airtag tracking feature into their software.
The OP is right. Airtags are not the greatest idea and the abuse of them is disastrous for people who are not on the apple ecosystem.
The attitude of apple so far has been horrible... Their app sucks.. only works when you open it.... They can do better but refuse to, because they don't care for our safety unless we buy an Apple product.
Sorry but that's unacceptable
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
The notion of an umbrella lasting 20 years boggles my mind. I've never had one last more than 2–3 years and I don't use them much. I've looked for premium umbrellas before but every time I find one that isn't ridiculously priced, there's always a contingent of reviewers who insist that it fell apart in heavy wind or frequent use. Normally I buy $10 umbrellas from Australia's big hardware store chain. They aren't grea…
Like for many products there is an entire segment of the market that most people never even know exists. E.g. premium umbrellas that are made to last against wind and wear. I have this one, has so far lasted close to 10 years. https://www.senz.com/
My wife had a small one around the time you bought yours. Started to rust after a few uses... I guess that sort of demonstrates GPs point.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#398Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
Apple's "Tracker Detect" Android app wants full network access and precise foreground location permissions.
They expect me to consent to having my physical location tracked by Apple in order to avoid having my physical location tracked by someone other than Apple. Unbelievable.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#399Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
>>and significantly increases the average person's risk of stalking. I mean, increase from 0.00001% to 0.0001% is still significant and yet I still wouldn't worry about it in the slightest.
> I mean, increase from 0.00001% to 0.0001% is still significant and yet I still wouldn't worry about it in the slightest.
I think there's probably a little gender bias at play in your risk estimation. I too am not particularly worried about someone stalking my 6ft ass - but I'd say a majority of my female friends have experiences with stalking at some point in their life.
Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking
#400Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
My cat gets out often, and an AirTag allowed us to find her several times over the past year; sometimes notifying us before we even realized it.
Planning the same for my cat who goes out a lot: is there a special collar that has a place for AirTag or what is your setup?