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Post by tartoran »

khazhoux wrote: post #379
tartoran wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living in a hotel does qualify as homeless in my opinion. Same as trailer or anything that is not a fixed home. The definition of homeless doesn not equate to just to simply sleeping under the stars.

How so? I grew up with kids whose entire childhood was in the same trailer park. They were homeless?

Yes, unless you consider a trailer a home but then where do you draw the line? One could go as far as considering a tent as a home but come on, we all know what we mean by home. A trailer is just a trailer.

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Post by ericcumbee »

labster wrote: post #368
darth_avocado wrote: post #328

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It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

If students only come in every other day, schools will only receive 50% funding in the US. In Japan, schools are often privately funded, but a solution that cuts public funding of education by half in the US is a non-starter. It would likely take a constitutional amendment in California to change the school budget formula. But we’re not going to have a third year of COVID anyway. Nearly everyone is going to catch the…

The way around it is students "Went" to school 5 days a week. somedays they were on campus, and some days they were remote learning. I know of several schools in my immediate area that implemented such a system.

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

fourseventy wrote: post #347
gpm wrote: post #247

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Your link doesn't lead to any data, I'm assuming you meant to link to something like this instead: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#daily Of course that says 44 deaths in the latest 7 day rolling average, not 38, and it loudly warns "Data from the most recent days are incomplete.", so presumably you meant to link to some other page... Your interpretation of the data is also just flat out wrong.…

Ok. this is from wsj.com "Omicron mortality is likely around 0.2%, roughly in line with seasonal flu." https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-variant-may-end-up-savi... Pretty close to my back of the napkin calculations.

You can look up actual Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for Omicron: https://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/omicron-and-wani...

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Post by jakeinspace »

another_story wrote: post #344
sylens wrote: post #331

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I don't fault any schools for struggling from March 2020 to June 2020, being thrown into the pandemic and remote learning with no warning. But I was absolutely astonished to see that most administrators took the summer of 2020 off, assuming that everybody would be back in school that fall and things would be normal. They wasted several months of time that could've been spent planning contingencies and how remote lear…

Where are you going to get a few million surrogates? A lot of solutions shared here fail to realize that the majority of US public school teachers are routinely spending their own money on basic classroom supplies.

I assumed they meant having other kids be surrogates, so representing both themselves as well as another student. Could work in the right environment I suppose, but US public school culture is a million miles from that of Japan.

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Post by [deleted] »

ars wrote: post #360
mlindner wrote: post #311

Seems to me that the school is unnecessarily scaring kids more than doing anything else. These teens have almost nothing to fear from covid. Most of the rest of the country (outside major cities) almost ignores covid exists. Good article on the subject: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/where-i-li...

The divide in this country is just getting larger and lager. You have those who just no longer care about COVID, and those (like the kid in the article) who treat COVID as the most important control in their life. Are COVID deaths higher in the places that ignore? Not that I could see. There's going to be such a divide as these kids grow up. Personally? It's time to move on. Get vaccinated (no boosters), and then ign…

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Post by cwalv »

tartoran wrote: post #340
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #324

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We should have zero homeless children. That said the definition of "homeless" in this count is extremely broad. For example if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless. Even if someone stays temporarily in a hotel or motel, for example because of a fire or flood, will be counted as homeless. Even wider scope, a child who "qualified moved" within the last 36 months is considered migratory i.e. homeless.…

Living in a hotel does qualify as homeless in my opinion. Same as trailer or anything that is not a fixed home. The definition of homeless doesn not equate to just to simply sleeping under the stars.

Okay, but when I hear "homeless" I think "unsheltered". That's what it means in colloquial use.

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Post by cdrini »

cdrini wrote: post #233
parkingrift wrote: post #74

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There are a few important facts missing from your analysis. 1) Omicron, although less deadly than Delta, is significantly more spreadable. 2) Omicron can infect and be transmitted through vaccinated people--although they do suffer even milder symptoms. 3) The logic behind restrictions is to flatten the hospitalisations curve. Because of how infectious Omicron is, even if there is a lower likelihood that a COVID patie…

Gonna take a leap and say I'm getting down-voted due to lack of references? So here are some references:

(1) "A growing body of evidence indicates that the Omicron Covid variant is more likely to infect the throat than the lungs, which scientists believe may explain why it appears to be more infectious but less deadly than other versions of the virus." 2 Jan 2022. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/02/new-studies-re...

(2) "The Omicron variant largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses according to the latest Imperial modelling." 17 Dec 2021. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/omicron-largely-evade...

(3) "Even if the disease is milder, rapid onslaught of the virus could overwhelm health care systems (doubling time of 2.5 days means 50X increase in 2 weeks)" 18 Dec 2021. WHO. https://youtu.be/ltXkJTSBeaE?t=675

- Also: Canada's patients in hospital is the highest its been ever. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

Dr. John Campbell's videos in general provide good, well-cited references of omicron progression: https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching/videos

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Post by jakeinspace »

khazhoux wrote: post #379
tartoran wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living in a hotel does qualify as homeless in my opinion. Same as trailer or anything that is not a fixed home. The definition of homeless doesn not equate to just to simply sleeping under the stars.

How so? I grew up with kids whose entire childhood was in the same trailer park. They were homeless?

A decent trailer can be a more pleasant living experience than a tiny manhattan studio, I fail to see why that should qualify as homeless. Maybe using an in-between category would be helpful.

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Post by Gibbon1 »

sylens wrote: post #331
darth_avocado wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

I don't fault any schools for struggling from March 2020 to June 2020, being thrown into the pandemic and remote learning with no warning. But I was absolutely astonished to see that most administrators took the summer of 2020 off, assuming that everybody would be back in school that fall and things would be normal. They wasted several months of time that could've been spent planning contingencies and how remote lear…

The other thing is the FDA intentionally delayed approving vaccines for 5-11 year olds till well after the school year start. At the same time the CDC was pushing hopium that vaccines alone would solve the problem. Trying to dangle normalcy in front of people to entice the nimrods to get vaxed. Same time conservative political leaders are using the issue as a political football.

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Post by vanilla_nut »

sva_ wrote: post #365

I read this post earlier today, and found it quite shocking. I really hope this is an exception rather than the normal. I previously didn't think about it this way, and thought closing schools was the more sensible choice. But we're failing a whole generation like this. It more and more feels like we live in a society that sarcrifices their young, just to keep old people on their life support machines a little longer…

I found it shocking at first. Then I thought about the shitshow that is any kind of organization in high schools. Then I thought about the utter confusion that my own school had trying to set up a simple website.

Then I wasn't so surprised any more. Just disappointed.

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