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Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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I don't understand it: these companies have enormous funding, an army of employees, and they can't provide the service reliably (both regarding consistency and safety). What all these coders do all day? I'm asking as an uninformed party of course. But it looks to me like these are companies that build bridges, and their bridges are collapsing all the time.

A company cannot out-engineer bad management nor out-manage bad leadership.

A lot of people who worked in giant tech companies can tell you stories of talent being wasted on tight deadlines for unnecessary projects.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#392

This is somewhat hilarious. Just 5 days ago I was complaining about Twitch’s new "Only verified users" setting which requires me to give them my phone number. One of the reasons I said I’ll not do that was "hacks, leaks". And now this. Sure, I’ll give you my phone number to add TOTP (Why even?) after I’ve just been shown how secure that data is.

Twitch has a huge problem with waves of hate bots spamming and overwhelming smaller streamers, and it's been getting worse.

They really need that verification option just to avoid getting run off the platform.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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That's a pretty harsh moral/value judgment on how someone chooses to spend their entertainment money. What about comedy clubs? If I buy a ticket to see Dave Chappelle, who is clearly wealthy, am I sucker too? What about paying cover at my local bar because a local band is playing that night? What about buying tickets to a baseball game, to see a bunch of millionaires play a game for a few hours? You are making it see…

Sorry, I didn't mean that in a derogatory way. I just meant twitch users pay for the sake of giving money to their favorite streamers rather than paying for a product. Strip clubs are the first example that came to my mind, bands or comics also stand. My point was that OP's argument about comparing twitch to movies doesn't make sense because paying for a movie is no different than paying for groceries.

I sub to twitch streamers I watch because dollar per hour it's the cheapest form of entertainment besides torrenting for me.

There was a stint during the GTA V RP craze I had it on in the background and watched it for approximately 6-8 hours every day. I subbed to one streamer for like 5 bucks.

This averages out to like 2 cents/day for 240 hours of entertainment. Cheaper than netflix, cheaper than cable, cheaper than hulu... You catch my drift. I don't know how this is different than me paying $80 to spend a night out at the movies with my wife, other than it being insanely cheaper?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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I don't really get this. My phone number is apparently already known by every scammer and spammer on earth, which is why I never answer calls from people I don't know, so what am I losing? Meanwhile, Twitch has had a significant bot spamming problem.

Which came first? You giving your phone number away online, or the scam calls?

Scam calls just end up ringing every working number these days and if you pick up even once you're already on the list of "real people". Targeted scamming of even just 100,000 potential victims is just wasted effort when with the same setup you could do untarget scamming of 100,000,000 potential victims.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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post #164

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That's a pretty harsh moral/value judgment on how someone chooses to spend their entertainment money. What about comedy clubs? If I buy a ticket to see Dave Chappelle, who is clearly wealthy, am I sucker too? What about paying cover at my local bar because a local band is playing that night? What about buying tickets to a baseball game, to see a bunch of millionaires play a game for a few hours? You are making it see…

If the Dave Chappelle show were free but you chose to donate your money to Dave Chappelle anyway, yes, you're a sucker.

Twitch streams aren't free though. If nobody paid then they wouldn't exist. It's just a voluntaryist model. Those that pay, do, those that can't or don't want to, don't. So I'm not a sucker for choosing to fund a form of entertainment I find valuable.

I treat museums the same way. When I was young and poor my parents didn't pay to get in since it was optional. But now that I'm older and I make good money, I donate extremely well when I go to museums. I know that it's voluntary and I choose to participate in funding it because I enjoy the experience.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#396

Here's a link to the data: bWFnbmV0Oj94dD11cm46YnRpaDpONUJMWjZYRUNORUhIQVJISk9WUUFTNFc3VFdSWENTSSZkbj10d2l0Y2gtbGVha3MtcGFydC1vbmUmdHI9dWRwJTNBJTJGJTJGb3Blbi5zdGVhbHRoLnNpJTNBODAlMkZhbm5vdW5jZQ==

I'm very curious to have a peek but isn't downloading stolen material a crime? And wouldn't this be compounded by the fact that with torrent systems you are also helping redistributing it further?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#397

> Vapor - an unreleased competitor to Steam Until Steam has a couple major screw ups, potential competitors better have tons of capital to keep throwing at their platform-in-waiting! Amazon does have the $$$, but they also have hungry shareholders that won't wait like they used to . Gamers by-in-large quite like the platform Gabe has built.

I guess they could tie it to Amazon Prime (like they did with Prime video) and just let Prime cutomers download any game on the platform without paying extra.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#398

Hi ya'll, I have a question. My wife and I can't wrap our brains around the fact that payment info was leaked alongside source code . Any theories how this happened? Former pentester btw. I saw a lot of interesting things during my time, but I can't recall seeing a payment database next to a source code repo. Did their s3 bucket get popped or something? Even if their github enterprise got popped, that doesn't explain…

Amouranth made $92,949 licking a microphone - LOL. What a world.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Amazon has even more money to throw at studios than Epic, so they can just force themselves into it.

It's more than just throwing money at it. EA tried and failed to separate from Steam. Epic might succeed, but it's not going to be because of money, but because Fortnite let them capture young gamers before they got into Steam. Wherever a user gets a critical mass of a library built up first is going to be the winner.

> Wherever a user gets a critical mass of a library built up first is going to be the winner.

This is where they've been throwing money at the problem: giving away a ridiculous amount of games for free.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/12/22380895/epic-games-store...

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Ah yes, professional sports people, always finding a way to not do hard work.

There are plenty of professions where the people work just as hard as professional sports people. The wealth accumulated has nothing to do with working hard or not working hard, but rather with the public visibility of the outcome of the work (and ability to make money with that).

What does any of that have to do with the claim that professional sports people routinely don't do hard work?
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