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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by Isthatablackgsd »

ksec wrote: post #359
zzt123 wrote: post #42

I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…

Same problem and on Safari as well. But I do think the problem is fairly recent as in the last 4- 5 years after certain macOS update. It works when you have little to no CPU usage, but even at 20-40% CPU typing speed lag start to show.

I wonder if it could be the hardware acceleration? Hardware acceleration can be weird at times and cause strange behaviors. They are not always consistent across all computers. I couldn't find the information if there is a way to disable the hardware acceleration in Safari.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by cmurf »

robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Yeah I'm over macOS, since 10.12, having used Apple OS's since System 6, sufferung years of not ready for prime time OSX but settled into that regime for almost 20 years. And now its Fedora Linux #1, Windows a distant #2, and then macOS.

The churn in macOS is annoying. A few year old version can't run the latest TeamViewer, I'm running into more of that now where on Windows 10 that's not even a thing (yet, maybe there will be a breakthrough with Windows 11).

shrug

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by brailsafe »

I'm surprised anyone has a good repair experience. I've had a hilarious amount repairs and complete replacements over the last 6 years (before then, not much), and now most Apple stores need to ship the mac away for at least 7 days to get it inspected. Fuck. That.

It was the case even in LA when I was stopping through on a road trip.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by User23 »

ubermonkey wrote: post #370
kowlo wrote: post #260

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WPM in the 90s is above average, but not "very, very high"! But I can see that you are a really really really big fan of adverbs...!

Wow, it's pretty interesting that you took the time to challenge the statement without actually verifying that you are correct. You are, of course, wrong. Cursory googling will show average typing speed to be about half the figure I noted. I've never worked with anyone who typed as quickly as I can, and I've been working quite a while. But hey, at least you got to drop a dig in about adverbs, so you've got that going…

I don't see any adverbs in the post being referred to, making it even more pointless. "Speed" is a noun, not a verb. "Time" is also a noun, so in both cases we're looking at adjectives.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by wyager »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #379
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

"Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS if your hardware wasn't built to support the newer versions." When Apple introduced OSX I refused to upgrade a G4; I stayed on OS9. I never connected that computer to the internet, it was only used as a DAW. This "upgrade the OS" nonsense is an old trick. Microsoft made it infamous. I had Windows computers back in the day, late 90s, where I only upgraded the hardware,…

It's such a breath of fresh air to run a barebones OS that hasn't become corpulently bloated over the last few decades. This basically restricts you to slim server-oriented operating systems like {Open,Free}BSD and a small number of Linux distros. Everything feels lightning fast. Of course, if you need to use a web browser or something the benefit disappears.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by riversflow »

konart wrote: post #268
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Sometimes I feel like an alien with my late 2013 MBPr working all the same with the latest os.

Yeah. Same boat, mine (15" with dGPU, base spec) just keeps chugging. Never felt like an OS update affected it negatively. I've often wondered if it has to do with the Crystal Well L4 cache they put on these machines.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by avitous »

amatecha wrote: post #153
cronix wrote: post #131

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Same here. It's what I'm typing this on. The only thing I've done is replace the battery about a year ago. 7 years was a good run. Works 100% as well as the day I bought it and the last Apple product I've purchased. Took 10 minutes from walk-in to walk-out at a non-Apple branded Mac repair store for 70% of the price using the identical official replacement battery. No appointment.

Yeah, I have a 2013 MBP as well, and it has been problem-free. The battery still lasts hours! I think it's because I almost always used it plugged-in, so the battery has a very very low cycle count. I am SUPER impressed with how well the machine has lasted, considering my heavy usage of it!

I, too, have a late 2013 MBP, and just today replaced the battery a second time due to swelling; first time was mid-2018. I also leave my MBP plugged into power all the time, and rarely use it as a laptop apart from my desk, and suspect this may be contributing to lowered battery lifetime. However, 4.5+ years on the factory installed one, and 3 years on the first replacement seemed OK, given the machine has given me no other issues at all in the 8 years I've had it. Both battery repairs were done myself using the excellent iFixit replacement kit and instructions. While I know I have to replace this MBP eventually I'd rather wait until the post-M1 availability shakes out, and I feel confident a replacement MBP won't have the issues that have plagued each years' models from 2015 onward.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by niij »

gmac wrote: post #160
sombremesa wrote: post #88

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> Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years. Here's the inverse argument: it's absolutely ridiculous I have to pay 20-30% extra for my Macbook even though I don't care about the mandatory 3-year warranty. They should let me opt out for a discount! Well, they do. > you're prac…

If you make them guarantee it for three years (or perhaps five) you give them a stronger incentive to build it to last, and you can be sure it’s going to last that long. There’s a strong environmental (public good) aspect to this, so no, you should not be able to opt out. I find it even more ridiculous that big items like fridges, ovens, and washing machines are also often only guaranteed one year. I think a ten year…

Why stop at 10? Is there some mechanical threshold we can't design around at that point? I'd propose 20 years should be the minimum.. unless you hate the environment.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by SilverRed »

EpicEng wrote: post #238
jppope wrote: post #146

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Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.

I don't know how you can say this after looking at the state of android. Beyond that, my macbooks have _vastly_ outlived any Windows laptop I've ever owned.

Yeah this argument comes up constantly. Sure Apple does a lot of nasty stuff that should be banned. But when I look around at the rest of the market, everyone else is doing the exact same things but 10x worse.

I think Apple cops most of the blame for being the most recognizable name despite having the least planned obsolescence of the OEMs.

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