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Post by hardwaregeek »

CabSauce wrote: post #100
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

Which field "has jobs" anymore? Putting aside the humanities, STEM degrees these days aren't even a guarantee of a job. Biology/chemistry jobs generally require graduate school or medical school, engineering jobs aren't as lucrative or stable as they once were, and math either implies becoming an actuary (i.e. more certification), a quant (insanely competitive) or a programmer. I'm not saying these routes are impossible, but it's harder than you'd think to pick a field that "has jobs". More than a few of my friends who did STEM degrees have ended up in tech for that reason.

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Post by lovegoblin »

fludlight wrote: post #298
ckdarby wrote: post #86

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With all the PR a major bank that deals with high risk would have stepped in. There is too much volume and processing to turn a blind eye from this deal. It should be noted that the cams see a lot lower chargebacks than subscriptions because of the shady tactics a lot of subscription adult sites use. Example would be not noticing a "$1 trial" addon being offered that recurs at like $44.95/month. The rest of the charg…

Besides adult content, what else is considered "high risk"? What are the commissions in this space? Also, major media outlets* are now doing bait and switch subscriptions. Does that make them high risk too? *Bloomberg $2/mo->$35/mo after 3m NYT $4/mo->$17/mo after 1yr WAPO $4/mo->$10/mo after 1yr Economist $25/qtr->$55/qtr after 1 qtr

> Besides adult content, what else is considered "high risk"?

Off the top of my head: gambling, medication, gift cards...stuff that's legal but more-likely-than-average to chargeback or default.

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Post by immmmmm »

actually_a_dog wrote: post #153
nooyurrsdey wrote: post #145

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The amount of anger and negativity in this comment is shocking. The work she does is often stereotyped as being "dumb" or non-intellectual. To fight that idea, OP found it valuable to mention how smart she is and how these platorms provide a safe and profitable way to provide for her child. Ask yourself - and I mean really ask yourself - what about that statement has you so angry?

I think it's the implication that sex work is inherently beneath someone who is "brilliant."

i was saying:

1) that she is doing sex work, because she has no choice to feed her son, given her medical condition.

2) on an unrelated note: she is a brilliant and very intelligent individual.

3) point 2) was emphasized because for a significant part of the population, these two are incompatible, which is obviously wrong.

4) these platforms, while far from perfect provides some safety to sex workers. this important and fundamental: the sex industry, be it pornography or other, is dangerous to actress, actors and prostitutes alike. many get raped and/or abused, for instance.

5) on yet an unrelated note that she is a loving mom. moreover, an ex gf of mine, a past sex worker as well, is also a loving mom. i added this information because both in english and french slang, if you're mom is a sex worker, you and her are not good person. i don't think these children can openly talk about their moms' jobs openly at school without provoking major backlash, if not legal actions. and we live in a quite liberal country.

sorry not making all of the above clear enough.

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Post by clevergadget »

isoskeles wrote: post #342
mumblemumble wrote: post #130

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We should try to read each others' comments in the most charitable light possible. In this case, I think the friendly way to interpret that comment is as an attempt to anticipate and pre-empt a very common and harmful misconception about sex workers.

It comes off as strange to me because it doesn’t make a difference if a “sex worker” is intelligent or not. And this goes for any job that doesn’t require brilliance. Am I supposed to feel better for, more accepting of, more sympathetic to, etc. a person because of their intellect? And if I have a problem with sex work, it has nothing to do with how I perceive the intellect of the workers, so the pre-empting seems un…

It comes off as strange to me because it doesn’t make a difference if a “sex worker” is intelligent or not.

Tell me you don't understand sex work without telling me you don't understand sex work.

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Post by scns »

pelasaco wrote: post #246
whymauri wrote: post #51

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it's pretty huge COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. There's huge groups that are/were unemployed and then there's huge groups who are sexually repressed due to quarantine. Across the whole world, too*. Many can easily make more than min wage, and in certain niches you probably don't even have to be 'conventionally beautiful' (sorry to use this term, but it's important I think) to make a living or sol…

In Germany, all Craftsmen are just laughing. Tiler, Carpenter, electrician, etc.. all of them have enough to do, can choose their clients and their wages. I understand that HN always will tend to talk about CS, but Craftsmen are doing their 40k/year, easily. The Salary potential is just increasing.

Well, some of those destroy your body in 25 years (Roofer/back, Tiler/knees), as a Carpenter you have to work with toxic laquer without getting compensated for it like Painters do. If you don't have your own shop at 40 you are pretty much screwed.

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Post by MAGZine »

treesknees wrote: post #244
bobthechef wrote: post #217

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Worthless? Probably depends on the degree. Miseducation is worse than the absence of education. STEM at least has some market value , but man does not live by bread alone and market value alone does not elevate the university above the level of trade school. Trade schools are a good thing. Turning universities into glorified trade schools (which they are) is not. People need more of the intangible but true. A consume…

You may get as philosophical as you want on the topic of whether degrees are necessary. As someone who did college recruiting for my company I can say first hand that degrees don't mean anything about someone's skillset. I've talked to hundreds of students with a 4.0 and a degree that couldn't tell me the Big-O of a hash vs searching a list. But if you are working in a field where the job requirements list a bachelor…

> If I have 3 positions open and 25 similar candidates, things like fulfilling the job requirements (like having a degree) start coming into play.

The problem is when jobs don't truly need the knowledge granted from a degree, and is just used to thin the heard, because hiding managers don't know what else to look for.

The value is thus generated by convenience to the hiring manager rather than possession of relevant job knowledge.

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Post by throwawayswede »

pdpi wrote: post #338
throwawayswede wrote: post #230

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Not to be that guy, but a very small percentage of people might get lucky to get an opportunity at something, not to keep it. Time and time again I've found that what people refer to as luck (aside from inheritance or lottery) is sheer hard work and discipline.

Some important steps in my career were basically down to sheer dumb luck. I will happily claim responsibility for putting myself in a position where lightning could strike , and was prepared to take advantage of the lightning strike, but it actually striking was, again, sheer dumb luck.

Again, dumb luck might have given you the opportunity, but dumb luck didn’t keep that thing going, you either consciously cheat or you’re working hard to keep the thing that dumb luck gave you the opportunity for.

The point is we all get dumb luck opportunities, not all keep them though

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Post by lovegoblin »

marc_io wrote: post #357
josh_p wrote: post #282

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Are you suggesting content creators should run their own website? If they have the time & skills, sure. But running your own website is expensive in both time and money.

It's not expensive, difficult or very time consuming to have a static website connected to a email marketing or newsletter service in order to communicate directly to people and improve the services offered. Basic marketing strategy. There's no need to run the entire business on their own.

> It's not expensive

It absolutely is, because you still need to get paid, and unfortunately 18-20% fees are completely normal for adult-content payment processing. And OF clearly does a lot more than just payment processing.

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Post by CityOfThrowaway »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #269
onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Marking the value of your company to market can make you richer over night. If you have a $10/year income stream, a bank might run a calculation valuing that income stream at $50-$100. If you can instead get investors to value it at $1000 (because it is a "tech company" and deserves an insane valuation), you are a lot richer than you used to be. Even if you lose 90% of your income stream, you are still probably riche…

For the sake of correctness, Bezos is definitely not in a $500M jet. The only jet at that price is owned by a Saudi Prince.

Also, the idea that Bezos and people like him never sell stock is just completely wrong. This stuff is public record, you can look it up. Here’s an article that did it already [0]. Which means, yes, Bezos and all the other über rich pay taxes and don’t borrow money to avoid taxes until they die.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2021/06/24/heres-...

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