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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Silhouette »

0xffff2 wrote: post #384
Silhouette wrote: post #298

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Affinity looks like the most promising replacement for Adobe applications like Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. The Affinity applications get a lot of things right, and do some things better than Adobe already. And obviously the pricing and permanent sale model are much more attractive than Adobe's subscription model. They do also have some almost unbelievable limitations, where what you'd expect to be entry-leve…

>They do also have some almost unbelievable limitations, where what you'd expect to be entry-level functionality simply doesn't exist Are there any specific examples that come to mind? I recently heard about Afinity and am planning to give it a try next time I need a Photoshop or Illustrator replacement.

It's mostly just dumb little things. You can transform elements using exact numerical values in some contexts, but sometimes you just get a drag handle and can't be precise. You can put tables in a document as standalone frames, but you can't include them within your text story so they reflow properly. This is basic stuff for graphics and DTP software respectively, yet Affinity can't do them.

But then again, for a very long time very basic search and replace options were missing in InDesign, so as I said before, it's not as if Adobe's software hasn't had its share of bizarre limitations over the years as well.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by beeper-beeps »

tim333 wrote: post #379
CamperBob2 wrote: post #145

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It's outrageous that copyright protection applies to DRM-encumbered material. Simply outrageous. Copyright is supposed to be a bargain with the public domain, and DRM explicitly renounces that bargain. This is a great example to point to... but as usual, nobody cares who has any power to change things, and nobody with any power cares.

I don't get that. Say Disney has a Lion King DVD. Why should attempts to stop you pirating it with DRM tech mean they shouldn't have copyright protection?

The argument would be:

Because copyright is temporary, it is a legal protection allows one to exploit a their work. But when the protection expires works should be accessible for the public good.

If the public cannot access a work after copyright expires (because of DRM) then then the company will never contribute to the community-good in return for the protection they receive.

Those US Founding Fathers were all about laws that ensured progress of Science and useful Arts[0]. Or some such.

[0]https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/sec...

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Post by cybwraith »

warmwaffles wrote: post #376
red_admiral wrote: post #261

I'm sure I've read an old Joel on Software post somewhere about how Adobe/Photoshop got big in the first place, but I can't seem to find it anymore. The story as I remember it went like this: X had a practical monopoly on professional image editing and printing, everything else was for amateurs. (Was that Quark? not sure). Then X did something that pissed off a lot of their users, and within a few months everyone had…

> Whoever authorised the new UI for firefox on Android might want to think about this too. The new ui on android isn't bad. I actually like it. But I can see how changing from the original normal can make people angry.

I don't mind the UI itself, per-se. However demoting bookmarks to such an inconventient level boggles my mind. Instead we have "collections" which are basically... bookmark folders? Except they don't sync to desktop like bookmarks. Just let me load up my bookmarks list on the start page like before and I have very few issues with the new Android FF.

The limited selection of addons is also frustrating.

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Post by dorkwood »

egonschiele wrote: post #377
dorkwood wrote: post #147

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> It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists and product folks, all their products have such poor UI. That's not really who they're catering to anymore, though. Not primarily, anyway. If you pay attention to the way Adobe communicates in recent years, it's all about the "democratization" of design tools. They want their new tech to look like magic to regular consumers. It doesn't need good UI. I…

Do you feel like they are succeeding at that? I've been using Adobe products since the early 2000s. I recently bought Premiere Elements and it was my first time doing any sort of video editing. I found it awful to use. I've switched to Final Cut and it's a ton better. iMovie was better too.

> Do you feel like they are succeeding at that?

Their record-breaking profits for the last few years in a row tell me 'yes'.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by cosmotic »

ChrisLomont wrote: post #345
cosmotic wrote: post #31

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The terms of the CS6 license pertaining to activation don't indicate one way or the other what happens if the server was intentionally disabled by Adobe's choice. The only stated requirement is internet access; there's an implied requirement that no firewall is in place to prevent the software from communicating with the Adobe server.

The CS6 license [1] has a 90 day limited warranty in section 6, which, for most goods, means the items will work as intended for at least 90 days, otherwise you can return it for a full refund. It it fails after 90 days, then you generally cannot. Also, did CS6 stop working? The only stories I see are CS2 and CS3. [1] https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/licenses-terms...

No, I have no reason to believe CS6 stopped working, that's just the only terms I have on my local and I couldn't find an obvious archive of Adobes terms for previous versions.

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Post by [deleted] »

prox wrote: post #191
interestica wrote: post #76

I seriously think this was the last straw for Adobe and I. I just wanted to install an older version of an app (that I've paid for!) on an older computer. I've literally spent thousands of dollars on software that I can no longer use for no reason other than that they will no longer allow me to. The worst part seems to be that they've just killed links and information about this - so you have people presuming they ca…

I switched to Affinity completely, and I also slowly see some people in the industry change. And for video, DaVinci Resolve. There might be cases were you’re tied to CS, but the bulk of the work can be done in these apps.

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Post by tomc1985 »

gogopuppygogo wrote: post #271
tomc1985 wrote: post #243

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Just curious, what is Fireworks used in?

Web development for me. It’s the most logical layer based editor I have ever used.

Interesting, I didn't know that it had the tools to work with the myriad different device sizes and resolutions. I used it back in the day but I was just making static images to be sliced into image maps

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Post by vimy »

neya wrote: post #241

Fuck Adobe. When Creative Cloud was launched, the CEO promised that he would support existing CS6 customers like myself who had paid a lot of money for the master collection. And then, few years later, they announced they wouldn't support CS6 much anymore (atleast for Mac OS X Catalina users). After getting screwed royally, I shut down all my accounts with them and switched to Serif's Affinity Photo and Designer whic…

They supported it for 5 years. Seems very reasonable to me.

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Post by Bud »

tonoto wrote: post #216
Bud wrote: post #177

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There never were "standard replaceable batteries" for either phones, or laptops. Replaceable? Yes. Standard? Big, big huge no.

Define standard. Standard as in rechargeable Ni-MH battery size AA or AAA which were widespread available at that time? Then yes, Motorola, Alcatel (I believe Siemens had one too) could be operated on those batteries.

Fair enough. Very very very few devices, however.
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