how much money for each boob?
he's a billionaire, his wife doesn't even care because she knows he has a prenup.
you know there is no blowjob waiting for you at the end of this thread right?
Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe Sexual Harassment
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#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think cringe is the wrong word. We cringe when we watch The Office and see people make social mistakes without meaning to. These are not unwitting social mistakes. This is people being assholes because they know they can get away with it. Furthermore, not having met any of these people but speculating based on my experience, I would guess that their motivations go beyond just looking for sex and knowing that one ti…
> This is people being assholes because they know they can get away with it. Nope. These people are being assholes because they ARE assholes. Never attribute to rational decision making what can be attributed to rotten character.
Mister Rogers says:
But the very same people who are good sometimes
Are the very same people who are bad sometimes.Re: Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe Sexual Harassment
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>So, this shit happens whenever the aggressive, scheming women (or men) see a way to get more for themselves at some seemingly-vulnerable man's (or woman's) expense. These are people with personality disorders (especially Borderline), who can thrive in environments where incessant lying, gaslighting, and life-ruining accusations are rewarded . The current system lets the people with the least morals float to the top,…
I've noticed people on HN never really want to discuss why people like the Uber CEO are sexist I don't think it's fair to characterize Travis as sexist without backing it up with evidence. Travis isn't equal to Uber, and I respect him as an entrepreneur. (Maybe I missed an article claiming he was personally involved in some misconduct, though.)
Sorry, maybe I worded that poorly, but I don't personally believe he's sexist, in fact I don't really know anything about him aside from what I've seen on HN and couldn't really give my opinion one way or the other. I was just making a note on the HN discussions regarding that topic (him being sexist).
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You'd rather say that she was sufficiently well connnected to make her voice heard. Even then she came public only after she had left the company and was employed elsewhere.
Indeed. Anyone who was old enough to understand the Clarence Thomas sexual harassment investigation can recall how much Anita Hill was dragged through the mud, despite having a compelling case. I think the fact that Susan was not currently suing Uber was the primary reason why her story was believed by the general public. The critics who would howl "she's just trying to make false accusations for a payday" had no amm…
> Either that or things have dramatically changed for
> the better since the 90s.
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#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a resource: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Derailment
>It is not derailing to say, because considering the needs of these women is still considering the needs of women. Borderlines are harming women as well with their behavior, not just men. Their false accusations don't have to be sexual in nature, and can be aimed at other women. According to that definition, it isn't derailment.
But it's off topic. You're trying to make the conversation be about something else—I assume in a completely well-intentioned way, but this isn't the place for it.
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> I expect less VCs to take meetings with women, sadly. Why? There's a really simple procedure that can solve these problems: Don't hit on, feel-up, or try to have sex with people you're in a professional business relationship with . That goes double for people you hold power over (managers to employees, VCs to Founders, etc). If you're really truly worried about false accusations then here's another fix you can have…
> "If you're really truly worried about false accusations then here's another fix you can have for free: record your meetings, texts, emails, and calls with founders and/or don't meet alone." Well, there are two problems with that. 1 - It puts the burden of proof on the accused. I.E. it totally throws out of the window what has become a de facto human right and an universally established legal one in every democracy:…
As has been pointed out, no one is suggesting non-consensual recording. Starting a meeting with, "do you mind if I record this?" is hardly alien.
As for burden of proof, I don't see it. It's like saying that asking people to lock their houses is a burden, when thieves are the criminals.
If you are a VC having a meeting with a founder, arrange for for more than 2 people to be there, such as a co-VC, a co-founder, a secretary, or whoever. Are business meetings with 3 people suddenly a human rights violation?
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I am a straight man who has experienced this personally. I can't give too many details without revealing who I am and who the VC was, but I can say the VC works at one of the largest corporate funds, and I was a bootstrapped founder at the time.
Why don't you want to reveal who the VC was? I'm not trying to imply you should, just curious about your reasons not to.
He is married to a woman and has kids. Also, one of his partners invested in my company, so it's a small world.
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#398"Because VCs are all populated by serial harassers who now realize they can't get away with this crap?" Because any of them that aren't used to avoiding all the risky behaviors, whether doing it intentionally (asking for dates) or unintentionally ("discriminatory language"), will now worry that they'll be hit with newspaper articles that can destroy their career. They'll be considered guilty until proven innocent by…
> Due to the risk, I naturally didn't try to get a date with anyone when I was in leadership positions... despite much, much temptation since they were impressive inside & out.
When you write things like that, phrased like that, it's not surprising in the slightest that multiple women have thought you were harassing them.
My guess is that you come off as a creep. I'm sure you don't mean to but I don't believe psychopathic schemers are common enough that anyone could ever be accused numerous times without some real cause for it.
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Hopefully man on man abuse comes out as well. Sex abuse between all pairings / genders happens but there are not so many women VCs so it's unlikely that's going to come down here. But there are quite a few gay VCs. My advice to everybody is keep meticulous notes and records of your interactions with others, regardless of gender. This is important to expose abuse and to expose lies.
There's always DEN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmaRTZpJgPA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Entertainment_Network Isn't that guy still running the Bitcoin Foundation? https://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/some-in-bitcoin-gro... He has a history of doing business with other creepy people, too. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/stephen-bannon-w... https://www.wired.com/2016/09/trumps-campaign-ceo…
If you havent watched "An Open Secret" (about DEN) then you dont know how deep the rabbit hole goes...
If you didnt believe in #PG prior, DEN's documentary; an open secret may just change your mind...
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>It is not derailing to say, because considering the needs of these women is still considering the needs of women. Borderlines are harming women as well with their behavior, not just men. Their false accusations don't have to be sexual in nature, and can be aimed at other women. According to that definition, it isn't derailment.
But it's off topic. You're trying to make the conversation be about something else—I assume in a completely well-intentioned way, but this isn't the place for it.
I accept that it's off-topic and I don't dispute your decision to detach the thread. And I do appreciate the effort you put into moderating HN. But that entry linked by cbhl doesn't help his argument.
I still think BPD is a valid concern, though. I'd really like to sincerely ask if you've had a run-in with it yet.